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Old 08-11-2005, 01:33 AM
Victor Roberts
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Default Re: How to expense 10-year domain registration?

David Woods <davidwoods[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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> "Victor Roberts" <xxx[at]lighting-research.com> wrote:
> > rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us (Rich Carreiro) wrote:


> > > What is the proper way of expensing a 10-year internet
> > > domain name registration (that is being used for a business,
> > > of course)? I'd imagine it would certainly be acceptable to
> > > the IRS to take the conservative route and expense 1/10th
> > > the registration cost each year (probably as a utilities
> > > expense -- does that sound reasonable?)
> > > > > But are there any acceptable ways to take it more quickly?
> > > Can a registration of more than some number of years be it
> > > be considered a depreciable asset (like a sort of capital
> > > lease) and so be written off over a shorter period than 10
> > > years (like the 5-year sorta catch-all) and with a more
> > > accelerated scheme than straight-line? Can it be Section
> > > 179ed?
> > > > > Or can it just be considered a simple business expense in
> > > its entirety and taken in a single year? I imagine that
> > > could be shaky for a 10-year registration.


> > I'm not a tax pro but would argue that you can take this as
> > a simple business expense in the year paid. The registration
> > has no resale value as far as I know and you can not get a
> > refund for the part not used. I would therefore expect that
> > it does not need to be depreciated. I'm sure I will be set
> > straight if wrong :-)


> Vic, I'd point out that a domain registration is
> transferable and presumably as such would have a value that
> a transferor might sell it for.


I had forgotten that. Specifically, if I register a domain
name for say 10 years and then transfer it after 2 years,
the remaining 8 years of the paid registration would not be
cancelled - they would stay with the domain name.

That makes depreciation logical, though I also know that the
tax law is not necessarily logical :-)

On the other hand, isn't the cost of domain name
registration usually too low for depreciation? I was looking
at the IRS site yesterday and, except for computer software,
it seemed like there is some unspecified cost limit below
which items with a life of more than one year do not have to
be capitalized. When I worked for a major US company a
number of years ago equipment we purchased that cost less
than $200 was considered to not be capital equipment and
would be expensed in the year purchased instead of
depreciated over a multi-year period - even if the life was
more than one year.

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Old 08-09-2005, 05:19 AM
David Woods
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Default Re: How to expense 10-year domain registration?

"Victor Roberts" <xxx[at]lighting-research.com> wrote:
- quote -

> rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us (Rich Carreiro) wrote:

> > What is the proper way of expensing a 10-year internet
> > domain name registration (that is being used for a business,
> > of course)? I'd imagine it would certainly be acceptable to
> > the IRS to take the conservative route and expense 1/10th
> > the registration cost each year (probably as a utilities
> > expense -- does that sound reasonable?)
> > > But are there any acceptable ways to take it more quickly?

> > Can a registration of more than some number of years be it
> > be considered a depreciable asset (like a sort of capital
> > lease) and so be written off over a shorter period than 10
> > years (like the 5-year sorta catch-all) and with a more
> > accelerated scheme than straight-line? Can it be Section
> > 179ed?
> > > Or can it just be considered a simple business expense in

> > its entirety and taken in a single year? I imagine that
> > could be shaky for a 10-year registration.


> I'm not a tax pro but would argue that you can take this as
> a simple business expense in the year paid. The registration
> has no resale value as far as I know and you can not get a
> refund for the part not used. I would therefore expect that
> it does not need to be depreciated. I'm sure I will be set
> straight if wrong :-)


Vic, I'd point out that a domain registration is
transferable and presumably as such would have a value that
a transferor might sell it for.

--
David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 08-09-2005, 04:59 AM
Ivan Erwin
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Default Re: How to expense 10-year domain registration?

"Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]belllsouth.net> wrote:
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> Rich Carreiro wrote:

> > What is the proper way of expensing a 10-year internet
> > domain name registration (that is being used for a business,
> > of course)? I'd imagine it would certainly be acceptable to
> > the IRS to take the conservative route and expense 1/10th
> > the registration cost each year (probably as a utilities
> > expense -- does that sound reasonable?)
> > > But are there any acceptable ways to take it more quickly?

> > Can a registration of more than some number of years be it
> > be considered a depreciable asset (like a sort of capital
> > lease) and so be written off over a shorter period than 10
> > years (like the 5-year sorta catch-all) and with a more
> > accelerated scheme than straight-line? Can it be Section
> > 179ed?
> > > Or can it just be considered a simple business expense in

> > its entirety and taken in a single year? I imagine that
> > could be shaky for a 10-year registration.


> I've no idea of the magniture of such an expenditure, but if
> something less than... say.... 250$, I'd just write it off
> under "dues and publications".


Many registrars charge much more but .com can be
obtained for about $90 for ten years. .net & .org a little
less than $130. (I am in the business.)

Ivan Erwin

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Old 08-08-2005, 11:20 PM
JMc
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Default Re: How to expense 10-year domain registration?

- quote -

> > What is the proper way of expensing a 10-year internet
> > domain name registration (that is being used for a business,
> > of course)? I'd imagine it would certainly be acceptable to
> > the IRS to take the conservative route and expense 1/10th
> > the registration cost each year (probably as a utilities
> > expense -- does that sound reasonable?)


The registration would be capitalized over the life of the
registration period.

However, if you purchased the rights to a domain name from
someone else (i.e. not registration), then this cost gets
captialized over the name's useful life. Per CCH, this
cost probably cannot be amortized because of the difficulty
of establishing the name's useful life.

Josh

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Old 08-07-2005, 04:16 AM
David Woods
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Default Re: How to expense 10-year domain registration?

"Rich Carreiro" <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote:

- quote -

> What is the proper way of expensing a 10-year internet
> domain name registration (that is being used for a business,
> of course)? I'd imagine it would certainly be acceptable to
> the IRS to take the conservative route and expense 1/10th
> the registration cost each year (probably as a utilities
> expense -- does that sound reasonable?)
> But are there any acceptable ways to take it more quickly?
> Can a registration of more than some number of years be it
> be considered a depreciable asset (like a sort of capital
> lease) and so be written off over a shorter period than 10
> years (like the 5-year sorta catch-all) and with a more
> accelerated scheme than straight-line? Can it be Section
> 179ed?
> Or can it just be considered a simple business expense in
> its entirety and taken in a single year? I imagine that
> could be shaky for a 10-year registration.


Well on a 10 year registration I would be inclined to
amortize it.

--
David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 08-07-2005, 03:57 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Default Re: How to expense 10-year domain registration?

Rich Carreiro wrote:

- quote -

> What is the proper way of expensing a 10-year internet
> domain name registration (that is being used for a business,
> of course)? I'd imagine it would certainly be acceptable to
> the IRS to take the conservative route and expense 1/10th
> the registration cost each year (probably as a utilities
> expense -- does that sound reasonable?)
> But are there any acceptable ways to take it more quickly?
> Can a registration of more than some number of years be it
> be considered a depreciable asset (like a sort of capital
> lease) and so be written off over a shorter period than 10
> years (like the 5-year sorta catch-all) and with a more
> accelerated scheme than straight-line? Can it be Section
> 179ed?
> Or can it just be considered a simple business expense in
> its entirety and taken in a single year? I imagine that
> could be shaky for a 10-year registration.


I've no idea of the magniture of such an expenditure, but if
something less than... say.... 250$, I'd just write it off
under "dues and publications".

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 08-07-2005, 03:38 AM
Thomas Healy
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Default Re: How to expense 10-year domain registration?

"Rich Carreiro" <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote:

- quote -

> What is the proper way of expensing a 10-year internet
> domain name registration (that is being used for a business,
> of course)? I'd imagine it would certainly be acceptable to
> the IRS to take the conservative route and expense 1/10th
> the registration cost each year (probably as a utilities
> expense -- does that sound reasonable?)
> But are there any acceptable ways to take it more quickly?
> Can a registration of more than some number of years be it
> be considered a depreciable asset (like a sort of capital
> lease) and so be written off over a shorter period than 10
> years (like the 5-year sorta catch-all) and with a more
> accelerated scheme than straight-line? Can it be Section
> 179ed?
> Or can it just be considered a simple business expense in
> its entirety and taken in a single year? I imagine that
> could be shaky for a 10-year registration.


The first method above would be the correct treatment: like
any prepaid expense with a life of more than 1 year. But I
would probably expense it currently if the cost wasn't too
high.

--
Tom Healy, CPA
Boulder, CO
Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com

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Old 08-07-2005, 03:18 AM
Victor Roberts
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Default Re: How to expense 10-year domain registration?

rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us (Rich Carreiro) wrote:

- quote -

> What is the proper way of expensing a 10-year internet
> domain name registration (that is being used for a business,
> of course)? I'd imagine it would certainly be acceptable to
> the IRS to take the conservative route and expense 1/10th
> the registration cost each year (probably as a utilities
> expense -- does that sound reasonable?)
> But are there any acceptable ways to take it more quickly?
> Can a registration of more than some number of years be it
> be considered a depreciable asset (like a sort of capital
> lease) and so be written off over a shorter period than 10
> years (like the 5-year sorta catch-all) and with a more
> accelerated scheme than straight-line? Can it be Section
> 179ed?
> Or can it just be considered a simple business expense in
> its entirety and taken in a single year? I imagine that
> could be shaky for a 10-year registration.


I'm not a tax pro but would argue that you can take this as
a simple business expense in the year paid. The registration
has no resale value as far as I know and you can not get a
refund for the part not used. I would therefore expect that
it does not need to be depreciated. I'm sure I will be set
straight if wrong :-)

--
Vic Roberts
Replace xxx with vdr in e-mail address.

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Old 08-05-2005, 12:57 PM
Rich Carreiro
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Default How to expense 10-year domain registration?

What is the proper way of expensing a 10-year internet
domain name registration (that is being used for a business,
of course)? I'd imagine it would certainly be acceptable to
the IRS to take the conservative route and expense 1/10th
the registration cost each year (probably as a utilities
expense -- does that sound reasonable?)

But are there any acceptable ways to take it more quickly?
Can a registration of more than some number of years be it
be considered a depreciable asset (like a sort of capital
lease) and so be written off over a shorter period than 10
years (like the 5-year sorta catch-all) and with a more
accelerated scheme than straight-line? Can it be Section
179ed?

Or can it just be considered a simple business expense in
its entirety and taken in a single year? I imagine that
could be shaky for a 10-year registration.

Thanks!

--
Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us

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