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| "Jimmy" <jimmystew95[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > wouldn't it be nice if the IRS didn't make things so complicated that
Yes, it would, but sadly, that's not the world we live in.> people like you think everyone needs and accountant! BTW, don't blame the IRS for complexity. Your representatives in Congress, the ones who are always yammering about how they want to simplify the law, are the ones who wrote it. Aside from tax complexity, an accountant will get you in touch with the financial side of your business. I've seen too many entrepreneurs who work 16 hours a day and lose money, but have no idea where the money's going. After all, if everyone could do everything well, no one would need whatever it is that you're selling. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jimmy wrote: - quote - > wouldn't
Keep in mind, it is CONGRESS (not the IRS) who enacts the> it be nice if the IRS didn't make things so complicated that > people like you think everyone needs and accountant! Internal Revenue Code - and you and I voted for 'em. Don't blame the wrong people for the problem. <grin MTW << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]belllsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > ...after
Good point, never thought of it that way!> all, when you borrow that or any other money, those loan > proceeds are not income, see? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > Thanks for providing confirmation that you need an
thanks for the vote of confidence...wouldn't it be nice if> accountant yesterday. The cash out is a combination of > interest expense and debt reduction on the note. > Now be good to yourself and hire an accountant. God alone > knows what deductions you're missing or records you're > messing up. everyone tried to learn a little bit everyday? and wouldn't it be nice if the IRS didn't make things so complicated that people like you think everyone needs and accountant! << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jimmy wrote: - quote - > The truck is for business use only.
The principal is depreciated, not just off into never never> So I can depreciate the trucks purchase price over the life > of the vehicle...do I get to decide its life or does the > IRS.... > Interest is expensed as 'Intrest Expenses'... > The principal flutters off into never never land??? So when > I write a check every month, what do I do with the portion > that goes toward principal? How do I account for the fact > that it is gone from my account but isn't expensed anywhere? land. The interest is deducted. You are accounting for the fact that your truck is being paid for by deducting the interest and depreciating the principal. The IRS has a pub 946 that can be down loaded from irs.gov but I strongly recommend that you get a tax pro in your area for this. at least for this year. MIssy Doyle << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jimmy wrote: - quote - > when I write a check every month, what do I do with the portion that
You reduce the balance on the loan.> goes toward principal? How do I account for the fact that it is gone > from my account but isn't expensed anywhere? Phoebe ![]() << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jimmy" <jimmystew95[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > The truck is for business use only.
See the Depreciation publication for the rules.> So I can depreciate the trucks purchase price over the life > of the vehicle...do I get to decide its life or does the > IRS.... - quote - > Interest is expensed as 'Intrest Expenses'...
No, it's reflected in your depreciation deduction, which is> The principal flutters off into never never land??? likely to be higher than the loan principal paid. - quote - > So when
Thanks for providing confirmation that you need an> I write a check every month, what do I do with the portion > that goes toward principal? How do I account for the fact > that it is gone from my account but isn't expensed anywhere? accountant yesterday. The cash out is a combination of interest expense and debt reduction on the note. Now be good to yourself and hire an accountant. God alone knows what deductions you're missing or records you're messing up. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jimmy wrote: - quote - > The truck is for business use only.
Will you settle for five years?> So I can depreciate the trucks purchase price over the life > of the vehicle...do I get to decide its life or does the > IRS.... - quote - > Interest is expensed as 'Intrest Expenses'...
Check.- quote - > The principal flutters off into never never land??? So when
Not to worry about it. Those principal payments are> I write a check every month, what do I do with the portion > that goes toward principal? How do I account for the fact > that it is gone from my account but isn't expensed anywhere? repayments of a loan and therefore not deductible; after all, when you borrow that or any other money, those loan proceeds are not income, see? ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jimmy" <jimmystew95[at]hotmail.com> writes: - quote - > The truck is for business use only.
The IRS. See Publication 946.> So I can depreciate the trucks purchase price over the life > of the vehicle...do I get to decide its life or does the > IRS.... - quote - > Interest is expensed as 'Intrest Expenses'...
Do you consider it income when you take money out of your> The principal flutters off into never never land??? checking account and transfer it into your savings account? That's the same reason the principal repayment is not an expense. Don't confuse cash flow with income/expense. While related they are most emphatically not identical. - quote - > So when I write a check every month, what do I do with the portion
You (or your accountant/accounting program) debit your> that goes toward principal? How do I account for the fact that it is > gone from my account but isn't expensed anywhere? checking account and credit your loans payable account for the amount of the principal payment. In other words, it's balance sheet-only transaction. It doesn't hit income or expense accounts. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| The truck is for business use only. So I can depreciate the trucks purchase price over the life of the vehicle...do I get to decide its life or does the IRS.... Interest is expensed as 'Intrest Expenses'... The principal flutters off into never never land??? So when I write a check every month, what do I do with the portion that goes toward principal? How do I account for the fact that it is gone from my account but isn't expensed anywhere? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jimmy" <jimmystew95[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > If I take out a loan to purchase a used truck, can I expense
No> out my monthly payments each time I write a check and take a > depreciation expense at the end of the year as well? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Tell us the purpose for buying the truck. Missy Doyle << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jimmy" <jimmystew95[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > If I take out a loan to purchase a used truck, can I expense
No.> out my monthly payments each time I write a check and take a > depreciation expense at the end of the year as well? First, we'll assume this is business use property. If it's personal use there's no deduction at all. The interest portion of your payment is deductible as interest; the portion going to pay principal isn't deductible. Depreciation is calculated on the purchase price. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jimmy" <jimmystew95[at]hotmail.com> writes: - quote - > If I take out a loan to purchase a used truck, can I expense
You can expense out only the *interest* portion of the> out my monthly payments each time I write a check and take a loan payments. The principal portion is *not* an expense. - quote - > depreciation expense at the end of the year as well?
Yes.-- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jimmy wrote: - quote - > If I take out a loan to purchase a used truck, can I expense
First of all, you have to be in business, or use a vehicle> out my monthly payments each time I write a check and take a > depreciation expense at the end of the year as well? in a business setting, even if as an employee. If you're talking about personal use, then no deductions no how, no way. But in a business setting, you deduct deprecation and other expenses, and just the interest on the loan - NOT the monthly payments. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| If I take out a loan to purchase a used truck, can I expense out my monthly payments each time I write a check and take a depreciation expense at the end of the year as well? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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