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| Norma Desmond wrote: - quote - > "Herb Smith" <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote:
The BUYER can add them to the cost basis of the property.> > Norma Desmond wrote: > > > > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing > > > > > for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential > > > > > lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any > > > > > way, either against my regular income or on the capital > > > > > gains tax on the lot sale? > > > > > > > > > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > > > > > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? > > > > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > > > > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > > > > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > > > > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of > > > > the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > > > > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. > > > > > > > Phone calls, fax charges, FedEx, etc would all be considered > > > > costs of sale, and used to adjust the selling price for > > > > capital gains calculation. > > > so you are saying he must buy such property sight unseen? > > > No, I am not. If you read the OP you will see that he is the > > SELLER of the property, not the BUYER. As seller, I assume > > he already knows what it looks like. > ok, I'm busted! But, how does one account for such expenses > if he is the buyer? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Norma Desmond wrote: - quote - > ok, I'm busted! But, how does one account for such expenses
Add to basis of the property.> if he is the buyer? ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Herb Smith" <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > Norma Desmond wrote:
ok, I'm busted! But, how does one account for such expenses> > > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote: > > > > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing > > > > for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential > > > > lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any > > > > way, either against my regular income or on the capital > > > > gains tax on the lot sale? > > > > > > > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > > > > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? > > > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > > > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > > > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > > > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of > > > the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > > > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. > > > > > Phone calls, fax charges, FedEx, etc would all be considered > > > costs of sale, and used to adjust the selling price for > > > capital gains calculation. > > so you are saying he must buy such property sight unseen? > No, I am not. If you read the OP you will see that he is the > SELLER of the property, not the BUYER. As seller, I assume > he already knows what it looks like. if he is the buyer? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > Herb Smith wrote:
I agree with your comments, but the IRS does not have to> > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote: > > > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing > > > for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential > > > lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any > > > way, either against my regular income or on the capital > > > gains tax on the lot sale? > > > > > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > > > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? > > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of > > the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. > Just because he doesn't HAVE TO be present doesn't mean that > he CAN'T be present. I have a problem with your comment in > that it strongly implies that the IRS can tell someone how > to run their business and investment affairs - and I don't > think that's the case at all. There is also nothing that > states that a taxpayer must choose the cheapest method, > etc.... allow such a deduction, merely because you elected to incur the expense. Under certain circumstances, the expense of travel MIGHT be considered an expense of sale on your Schedule D, not a deduction on Schedule A. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Herb Smith wrote: - quote - > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote:
Just because he doesn't HAVE TO be present doesn't mean that> > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing > > for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential > > lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any > > way, either against my regular income or on the capital > > gains tax on the lot sale? > > > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of > the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. he CAN'T be present. I have a problem with your comment in that it strongly implies that the IRS can tell someone how to run their business and investment affairs - and I don't think that's the case at all. There is also nothing that states that a taxpayer must choose the cheapest method, etc.... << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Norma Desmond wrote: - quote - > "Herb Smith" <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote:
The OP said that this was a "sale" of a residential lot held> > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote: > > > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing > > > for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential > > > lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any > > > way, either against my regular income or on the capital > > > gains tax on the lot sale? > > > > > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > > > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? > > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of > > the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. > > > Phone calls, fax charges, FedEx, etc would all be considered > > costs of sale, and used to adjust the selling price for > > capital gains calculation. > so you are saying he must buy such property sight unseen? for investment. I agree with Herb Smith that a trip to close on this property is it not necessary and would not be deductible. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Norma Desmond <ND[at]ND.com> wrote: - quote - > "Herb Smith" <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote:
He's _selling_ the property. At this point, all he should> > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote: > > > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the > > > closing > > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of > > the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. > so you are saying he must buy such property sight unseen? care about is getting money. Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Norma Desmond wrote: - quote - > "Herb Smith" <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote:
The OP said for the "sale" of the property, not the buying> > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote: > > > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the > > > closing for the sale of some investment property (vacant > > > residential lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax > > > deductable in any way, either against my regular income > > > or on the capital gains tax on the lot sale? > > > > > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > > > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? > > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead > > of the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. > > > Phone calls, fax charges, FedEx, etc would all be considered > > costs of sale, and used to adjust the selling price for > > capital gains calculation. > so you are saying he must buy such property sight unseen? thereof, therefore no need to travel when one can deputize. "Norma Desmond".. heard the name before.... movie star of yon olden times? ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Norma Desmond" <ND[at]ND.com> wrote: - quote - > "Herb Smith" <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote:
I think you need to re-read the original post. Going to a> > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote: > > > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing > > > for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential > > > lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any > > > way, either against my regular income or on the capital > > > gains tax on the lot sale? > > > > > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > > > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? > > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of > > the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. > > > Phone calls, fax charges, FedEx, etc would all be considered > > costs of sale, and used to adjust the selling price for > > capital gains calculation. > so you are saying he must buy such property sight unseen? closing implies they have already signed a contract so they have to close unless some condition has not been met. I think the time to see this property is before they sign a contract and commit to close. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Norma Desmond wrote: - quote - > > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote:
No, I am not. If you read the OP you will see that he is the> > > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing > > > for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential > > > lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any > > > way, either against my regular income or on the capital > > > gains tax on the lot sale? > > > > > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > > > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? > > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of > > the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. > > > Phone calls, fax charges, FedEx, etc would all be considered > > costs of sale, and used to adjust the selling price for > > capital gains calculation. > so you are saying he must buy such property sight unseen? SELLER of the property, not the BUYER. As seller, I assume he already knows what it looks like. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It may not be relied upon for the purpose of avoiding > << penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer or the > << tax preparer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Herb Smith" <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > << General Disclaimer:
so you are saying he must buy such property sight unseen?> > > > > > > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote: > > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing > > for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential > > lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any > > way, either against my regular income or on the capital > > gains tax on the lot sale? > > > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? > The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present > at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the > title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc > can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of > the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel > expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. > Phone calls, fax charges, FedEx, etc would all be considered > costs of sale, and used to adjust the selling price for > capital gains calculation. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of > << avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| << General Disclaimer: > << The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only > << and does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of > << avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. > << ================================================== ===== > nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing
The seller of real estate rarely is required to be present> for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential > lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any > way, either against my regular income or on the capital > gains tax on the lot sale? > What about other expenses relating to the sale, > e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? at the actual "closing", as they are represented by the title company or other closing agent. All signatures, etc can be obtained beforehand and faxed or sent FedEx ahead of the closing date. Therefore, I think any such travel expenses would NOT be deductible in any way. Phone calls, fax charges, FedEx, etc would all be considered costs of sale, and used to adjust the selling price for capital gains calculation. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I need to travel out of state (1500 miles) to the closing for the sale of some investment property (vacant residential lot). Are the travel expenses for this tax deductable in any way, either against my regular income or on the capital gains tax on the lot sale? What about other expenses relating to the sale, e.g. Fedex costs for sending contracts, etc? Thanks. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << Copyright (2005) - All rights reserved > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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