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See your tax advisor!> > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was > > filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > > the consequences for doing this? Would I risk a much higher > > chance of audit as some suggest? Would I then need to amend > > the state too, and each subsequent return to carry forward > > the difference? > Thanks for all the replies. I don't actually know how much > of a refund I may get since it hasn't been looked at > professionally yet, but I can see how one amendment might > lead to 6 (fed and state), and need to weigh the benefit vs > cost of doing this. There could also be an amt trigger > waiting in there too. Whenever a client comes to me with something that would require an amended return, I do an estimate of the effect. If the client has a refund coming, I will only do the return for them if the refund will exceed my fees. If it won't, then I tell them so and leave it to them to make the decision but I also tell them that IRS will not get upset if they don't file. If they will owe money on the amendment, I also tell them that, although they may technically be required to file, IRS will not be concerned unless the issue involves something IRS already knows about. Then, I leave it up to them, again. My professional obligations only require that I inform them of the techical requirements, which I do. The decision on whether or not to actually file is the client's. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| tns1 wrote: - quote - > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was
Thanks for all the replies. I don't actually know how much> filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > the consequences for doing this? Would I risk a much higher > chance of audit as some suggest? Would I then need to amend > the state too, and each subsequent return to carry forward > the difference? of a refund I may get since it hasn't been looked at professionally yet, but I can see how one amendment might lead to 6 (fed and state), and need to weigh the benefit vs cost of doing this. There could also be an amt trigger waiting in there too. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| tns1 wrote: - quote - > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was
When I was self-employed, I use to have to amend about once> filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > the consequences for doing this? Would I risk a much higher > chance of audit as some suggest? Would I then need to amend > the state too, and each subsequent return to carry forward > the difference? every four years. I got audited once and it was not on an amended return. It was on Schedule C expenses and Susan had all the receipts to support the expenses. Two important points: ALWAYS send a CPA, an EA, or a Tax Attorney to your audit and NEVER EVER attend the audit personally unless served with a supeona requiring your attendence. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Paul A Thomas <taxman[at]negia.net> wrote: - quote - > "tns1" <tns1[at]cox.net> wrote
Also, while an original return is processed by data-entry> > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was > > filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > > the consequences for doing this? > > > From what you say, you'll get $3,000 back. > > > Would I risk a much higher chance of audit as some suggest? > Your audit risk, while being extended somewhat, would depend > on the item(s) being amended. clerks or, if e-filed, automatically, a 1040X amended return is looked at by a live, tax aware, IRS emoployee before being entered into the system. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "tns1" <tns1[at]cox.net> wrote: - quote - > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was
not enough facts given to answer your questions> filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > the consequences for doing this? Would I risk a much higher > chance of audit as some suggest? Would I then need to amend > the state too, and each subsequent return to carry forward > the difference? amended returns are not a red flag for audit simply becuase they are amended returns consider hiring a professional (cpa, etc.) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| tns1 wrote: - quote - > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was
The consequence is that you will receive $3K from Uncle Sam> filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > the consequences for doing this? Would I risk a much higher > chance of audit as some suggest? Would I then need to amend > the state too, and each subsequent return to carry forward > the difference? if your amended return is valid. You are only obligated to amend your state tax return if a change in the federal return creates an additional state tax burden. If the change in the federal return creates a lower state tax bill, then file the amended state return to get a refund. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| tns1 wrote: - quote - > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was
The consequence is that you will receive $3K from Uncle Sam> filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > the consequences for doing this? Would I risk a much higher > chance of audit as some suggest? Would I then need to amend > the state too, and each subsequent return to carry forward > the difference? if your amended return is valid. You are only obligated to amend your state tax return if a change in the federal return creates an additional state tax burden. If the change in the federal return creates a lower state tax bill, then file the amended state return to get a refund. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| If the reason will give you a carryforward of something, then yes, you will have to amend the other returns. Will they look? They might - but if your return is honest, true and correct to your knowledge as you orginally signed it being so, why worry? Helen, EA in PA www.nationalmssociety.org 50 Miles for the Cure << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Right now my office is doing amendments from CP2000 letters for 2003. (These are IRS notifications that the client's return missed something which IRS caught; "if you agree, pay this....if you don't, why not".) If the problem was the client's error, we do an amended California for him, charge something for the service, and there is normally no trouble. If the problem was our error - well, I have often just explained that the preparer goofed. We pay interest and penalty. Point is - this is a normal process. If your amendment can be backed up, say so, do any extra forms required, and yes, amend the state and do carry forward amendments if necessary. I don't know how many amendments the IRS gets every year, but if they are legitimate, you shouldn't worry. We have NEVER had an amended return audited - in 30 years of practice. Nan, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| tns1 <tns1[at]cox.net> wrote: - quote - > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was
No, unless the change you're making isn't on the up-and-up.> filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > the consequences for doing this? Would I risk a much higher > chance of audit as some suggest? - quote - > Would I then need to amend the state too
Yes, if the item you're changing on the federal returnaffects the state return as well. - quote - > and each subsequent return to carry forward the difference?
I'm not sure what you mean by this.-- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2[at]spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "tns1" <tns1[at]cox.net> wrote: - quote - > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was
You'll have $3,000 plus interest in the bank. The interest> filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > the consequences for doing this? will be taxable income for the year in which you receive it. - quote - > Would I risk a much higher
Watch out for tax advice from "some." Sure, if you file a> chance of audit as some suggest? ludicrous amended return you'll probably get audited for your trouble, but filing a legitimate claim isn't going to get you audited. - quote - > Would I then need to amend
Most states require you to amend the state if you amend the> the state too, and each subsequent return to carry forward > the difference? Federal. The answer to that question is in your state"s instructions. As for subsequent years, you need amend them only if something on them changes because of the prior year, e.g., carryovers. Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "tns1" <tns1[at]cox.net> wrote - quote - > I have considered filing an amended return for one that was
Your audit risk, while being extended somewhat, would depend> filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets > say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are > the consequences for doing this? > From what you say, you'll get $3,000 back. > Would I risk a much higher chance of audit as some suggest? on the item(s) being amended. - quote - > Would I then need to amend the state too,
Most likely, yes.- quote - > and each subsequent return to carry forward the difference?
There is a carry-forward amount? What is it that you arechanging? -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia taxman at negia.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I have considered filing an amended return for one that was filed less than 3 years ago. For the sake of argument, lets say I get an additional $3K from this amendment. What are the consequences for doing this? Would I risk a much higher chance of audit as some suggest? Would I then need to amend the state too, and each subsequent return to carry forward the difference? thanks << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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