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| Jo Firey wrote: - quote - > "Rick Merrill" <jaynehm[at]comcast.net> wrote:
Technically correct. However in practice, if one itemizes,> > gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com wrote: > > > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to > > > divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > > > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > > > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > > > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > > > mortgage deduction. > > > > > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > > > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > > > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). > > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can > > itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > > deduction. > Someone tell me this is wrong. Its early, coffee isn't > working, and I'm suffering from major brain fog. > But if one itemized, both have to, right? Please? the other doesn't always do so. In fact they're rarely even speaking to one another. Also in practice, IRS doesn't even notice, or if it does, mostly doesn't force the issue. (Can you imagine ? on the phone: "Dahling.... are you going to itahmize deductions this yeah?" "Well, hmm, yes, honey dumpling, spose I will." (Sigh. "Well, then I'll guess ah'll have to also, and start over at zero. Well, ta ta, deah!" ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n lA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Barry Picker wrote: - quote - > You have to meet two criteria to claim a deduction for
I think there is actually a third requirement, or at least a> mortgage interest (and real estate taxes). One, is that you > are liable for the payment, and two, is that you actually > MAKE the payment. modification to the second. That is, that the payment must be made from SEPARATE FUNDS. If made from community property funds, then a 50/50 split is what you get. If made from "joint" funds, then ~perhaps~ a pro rata split (based on "contribution") would be called for, but I suspect this would also end up as 50/50 in most cases. I don't think the original poster mentioned her state of residence. If it is a community property state, you would have to determine when, under applicable law, the "community" ends. Mere separation may or my not end the community. Thus, the taxpayer's wages may continue to be "community funds" even though the couple has separately. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Thanks Rick! << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Rule is - if you are obligated to pay (name on the mortgage) and did pay, you get the deduction. He who didn't pay - can't. Married Separates must both itemize or both take standard. If you itemized, he has to also even if the standard would have been better. He's out of luck. Nan, EA in LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Rick Merrill" <jaynehm[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com wrote:
Why can only one itemize?> > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to > > divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > > mortgage deduction. > > > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can > itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > deduction. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Rick Merrill" <jaynehm[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com wrote:
Oops, perhaps a slip there? If you file MFS, then either> > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to > > divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > > mortgage deduction. > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can > itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > deduction. both spouses must itemize or both spouses must take the standard deduction. The answer to the question is that the mortgage interest may be taken by the person who paid the interest (i.e. the payments), presuming that person is legally liable for the loan. If the payments were made jointly, then you would split them. If one or the other made the payments, then you may deduct the interest for the payments you made. Good luck! Bryan ------------------------ Bryan Kellar, EA Oregon Tax Help, Inc. -- Portland, Oregon www.oregontaxhelp.com www.canadatax.org << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can
That doesn't sound right. If MFS and one itemizes, the other> itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > deduction. cannot take the standard deduction. Therefore, if one itemizes the other normally itemizes also. The OP's question, essentially, is whether actually having paid the interest is a requirement for deducting it, or can someone who was liable for it but did not pay it take the deduction. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Rick Merrill" <jaynehm[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com wrote:
Someone tell me this is wrong. Its early, coffee isn't> > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to > > divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > > mortgage deduction. > > > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can > itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > deduction. working, and I'm suffering from major brain fog. But if one itemized, both have to, right? Please? Jo (retired CPA) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Rick Merrill <rick0.merrill[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com wrote:
If one of you files MFS then the other also files MFS,> > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to > > divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > > mortgage deduction. > > > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can > itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > deduction. unless there is a dependent child involved. If both file MFS and one of you chooses to itemize, the other's standard deduction is zero. So, in practice, both must now itemize. If one files MFS, that tax return is private and confidential and need not be shared with anyone else unless a judge says otherwise. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Rick Merrill" <jaynehm[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com wrote:
That is not correct! When you file married filing> > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to > > divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > > mortgage deduction. > > > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can > itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > deduction. separately, both spouses must either itemize or both must take the standard deduction. I suggest that Ghina download Publication 17 from irs.gov and see what it says about this situation. Wayne Brasch << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Rick Merrill wrote: - quote - > gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com wrote:
That is wrong. If you file Married Filing Separate, and one> > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to > > divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > > mortgage deduction. > > > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can > itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > deduction. of you itemizes, then the other MUST also itemize. The mortgage interest deduction can only be claimed by the TP who actually PAID it. Unless the payments were made from a joint account, it looks like the OP should get the entire 2004 deduction. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Rick Merrill wrote: - quote - > gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com wrote:
Wrong. With married separate returns both must itemize or> > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to > > divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > > mortgage deduction. > > > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can > itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > deduction. take the standard deduction. The spouse who is named on the mortgage or deed of trust and paid the mortgage gets the interest and tax deductions on the house. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to
You have to meet two criteria to claim a deduction for> divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > mortgage deduction. > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). > OTOH he called the IRS and claims that the IRS supports his > position. > Can anyone help? I'd like to be sure of my position, and > even some printed official guidance will help. mortgage interest (and real estate taxes). One, is that you are liable for the payment, and two, is that you actually MAKE the payment. So, to the extent that YOU paid the mortgage, you claim the interest deduction. To the extent that he paid it, he can claim the deduction. If he paid none if it, that's how much of the deduction he can claim. Barry Picker, CPA/PFS, CFP << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to
If one MFS filer itemizes both MUST itemize.> > divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > > mortgage deduction. > > > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). > If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can > itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest > deduction. Whoever paid gets the deduction. In OP's case, a 50/50 split for the period when they were together (and, I assume, contributing to the expenses) sounds reasonable. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| gsiddiqui[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to
If you file Married Siling Separately only one of you can> divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage > payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest > deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, > because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the > mortgage deduction. > I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find > anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person > who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). itemize, hence only one can take the mortage interest deduction. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My husband moved out in July of 2003 we would like to divorce. Since that point I have been making the mortgage payments. So for 2004, I took the mortgage interest deduction. Soon To Be Ex (STBX), has delayed filing, because he wants to see my tax returns and claim have the mortgage deduction. I combed through the info on irs.gov but couldn't find anything on that. I called the IRS and they said the person who pays takes the deduction (I have proof that I paid). OTOH he called the IRS and claims that the IRS supports his position. Can anyone help? I'd like to be sure of my position, and even some printed official guidance will help. Thanks so much! Ghina << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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