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Then use the car! :-)> > "Bill Brown" <brownwp[at]longwood.edu> wrote: > > > I'm not familiar with Texas law but in general states > > > that recognize common law marriages don't allow residents > > > to flip back and forth between married and not married nor > > > do they allow retroactive claiming of that status. > > I remember seeing at least one Texas case that says, there > > is no common law divorce. > Yes, there is: A shotgun divorce! :-) > Moderator: > But that's a felony even if you belong to the NRA ![]() Moderator: The simplest way to a common law divorce is to drive your spouse crazy by being becoming affectionate, considerate, and sexually obscessed with her/him. The change in your behavior might drive you spouse over the edge. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Stuart A. Bronstein wrote: - quote - > "Bill Brown" <brownwp[at]longwood.edu> wrote:
Yes, there is: A shotgun divorce! :-)> > I'm not familiar with Texas law but in general states > > that recognize common law marriages don't allow residents > > to flip back and forth between married and not married nor > > do they allow retroactive claiming of that status. > I remember seeing at least one Texas case that says, there > is no common law divorce. Moderator: But that's a felony even if you belong to the NRA ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "engine" <engine247[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I live in Texas which I believe is still a common law
i think you will find:> marriage state. We filed 2003 taxes as both single. We just > had a baby and in the chaotic rush we filed off our taxes > without stopping to think. I've done some reading and from > what I have read I believe we could have filed married > jointly which would have made a very large difference since > she made practically zero dollars in 2004. > I'd like to see about amending my tax return to married > filing jointly but I am wondering about the following. Do I > need to only amend my return to reflect the change or do we > need to amend hers as well? She got a refund of about 400 > dollars. How do I go about this? I guess the question is > will the IRS automatically connect the two and deduct what > was refunded to her or is there a process by which I must > return it, etc.? - texas common law marriage statutes are different (more liberal) from other states - "IF" you and her were married under common law on the last day of 2004 (or before), you and she can file a joint return for 2004, and if you do, you must both amend your returns into a joint 2004 return - the IRS will not "automatically connect the two", her 2004 overpayment should be reported on the amended joint return and the bottom line on the amended return adjusted accordingly - common law marriages require a "regular" divorce to end them (the parties cannot just decide they are no longer married) as an aside, the state of new york doesn't recognize common law marriages of its residents unless it was consummated outside new york in a jurisdiction that recognizes common law marriages << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Bill Brown" <brownwp[at]longwood.edu> wrote: - quote - > I'm not familiar with Texas law but in general states
I remember seeing at least one Texas case that says, there> that recognize common law marriages don't allow residents > to flip back and forth between married and not married nor > do they allow retroactive claiming of that status. is no common law divorce. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > engine wrote:
Under Texas law (I've had occasion to research this lately)> > I live in Texas which I believe is still a common law > > marriage state. We filed 2003 taxes as both single. We just > > had a baby and in the chaotic rush we filed off our taxes > > without stopping to think. I've done some reading and from > > what I have read I believe we could have filed married > > jointly which would have made a very large difference since > > she made practically zero dollars in 2004. > In order to have a common law marriage, there must have > been a mutual present tense agreement that you wish to > be married. PA is a common law marriage State and Helen > can address this issue very thoroughly. the requirements are: 1. Cohabiting 2. Holding out as married (need not be to everyone) 3. Intent to be married. Texas courts often imply the third requirement from the first two. So filing of the joint return signed by the couple would satisfy this requirement. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| engine wrote: - quote - > I live in Texas which I believe is still a common law
In order to have a common law marriage, there must have> marriage state. We filed 2003 taxes as both single. We just > had a baby and in the chaotic rush we filed off our taxes > without stopping to think. I've done some reading and from > what I have read I believe we could have filed married > jointly which would have made a very large difference since > she made practically zero dollars in 2004. > I'd like to see about amending my tax return to married > filing jointly but I am wondering about the following. Do I > need to only amend my return to reflect the change or do we > need to amend hers as well? She got a refund of about 400 > dollars. How do I go about this? I guess the question is > will the IRS automatically connect the two and deduct what > was refunded to her or is there a process by which I must > return it, etc.? been a mutual present tense agreement that you wish to be married. PA is a common law marriage State and Helen can address this issue very thoroughly. Is it noted on the birth certificate that you are married? If yes, you are in a commmon law marriage. If it notes that you are unmarried, then you are not married. Have you and your girlfriend introduced each other as husband and wife, then you may very well be married provided you did not indicate that you were not married on your child's birth certificate. Was your child born in 2004? If yes and you are not married, one of you can file Unmarried Head of Household. Dick As an aside, New York recognized a common law marriage between two New York residents because the man had register in hotels in CLM States as husband and wife because they owned property in a CLM State as h/w. There were several cases in Georgia while it was a CLM State where a man registering in a motel as h/w created a CLM. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| engine wrote: - quote - > I live in Texas which I believe is still a common law
I'm not familiar with Texas law but in general states> marriage state. We filed 2003 taxes as both single. We just > had a baby and in the chaotic rush we filed off our taxes > without stopping to think. I've done some reading and from > what I have read I believe we could have filed married > jointly which would have made a very large difference since > she made practically zero dollars in 2004. that recognize common law marriages don't allow residents to flip back and forth between married and not married nor do they allow retroactive claiming of that status. - quote - > I'd like to see about amending my tax return to married
A married filing jointly return requires a married couple> filing jointly but I am wondering about the following. Do I > need to only amend my return to reflect the change or do we > need to amend hers as well? She got a refund of about 400 > dollars. How do I go about this? I guess the question is > will the IRS automatically connect the two and deduct what > was refunded to her or is there a process by which I must > return it, etc.? to both use that filing status. If you are married under Texas law, your wife would have to join in the amending process. If you are married under Texas law, the only way you can become unmarried is to go through the legal process of getting a divorce. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Hi, I live in Texas which I believe is still a common law marriage state. We filed 2003 taxes as both single. We just had a baby and in the chaotic rush we filed off our taxes without stopping to think. I've done some reading and from what I have read I believe we could have filed married jointly which would have made a very large difference since she made practically zero dollars in 2004. I'd like to see about amending my tax return to married filing jointly but I am wondering about the following. Do I need to only amend my return to reflect the change or do we need to amend hers as well? She got a refund of about 400 dollars. How do I go about this? I guess the question is will the IRS automatically connect the two and deduct what was refunded to her or is there a process by which I must return it, etc.? Thanks for any opinions. -gin << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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