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| "Karl Irvin" <88karl3200[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > Corp is is currently an S corp. Accounting method is accrual
Are you saying that the owner's reduced tax on C-Corp> S corp return shows no profit after 800k salary to owner > Owner wants to take out all profits each year > Corp has about 20 employees but no equipment to speak of. It > provides services but contracts out all work except job > supervision. > What are the pros and cons of revoking the S election and > paying 200 k in salary and 600k in dividends? > Tax saving appear to be 100k plus. dividends more than offsets the fact that the company will have to pay income tax on $600,000 of earnings? I don't know if that is true or not, but just want to understand the issue. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Karl Irvin wrote... - quote - > Corp is is currently an S corp. Accounting method is accrual
I'm sure some of the MTM regulars can provide a more> S corp return shows no profit after 800k salary to owner > Owner wants to take out all profits each year > Corp has about 20 employees but no equipment to speak of. It > provides services but contracts out all work except job > supervision. > What are the pros and cons of revoking the S election and > paying 200 k in salary and 600k in dividends? > Tax saving appear to be 100k plus. thorough analysis than mine (and perhaps point out any oversights on my comments), but my initial thought is that there are issues with both scenarios: (1) If a reasonable level of compensation of $200K can be established for the shareholder/owner, then why is an $800K salary being used with a pass-through entity (S-corp)? Taking a $200K salary and $600K pass-through income would save $17,400 Medicare portion of taxes (2.9%) paid by the corporation and the shareholder/owner. Shareholder is already above the thresholds at $200K and won't save anything on the FICA and FUTA taxes, but the pass-through $600K would be taxed at shareholder's income tax rate rather than double taxed with corporate rates (see next). (2) The downside to revoking the S-corp election and converting to C-corp is that dividends are not deductible by the corporation, so the corp would pay about $204,000 in taxes on the $600K profit/dividends, and shareholder/owner would pay probably 15% on the dividend distribution ($90,000). -- Bill Bourbonnais << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Karl Irvin" <88karl3200[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > Corp is is currently an S corp. Accounting method is accrual
Dividends are not tax deductible by the corporation, but are> S corp return shows no profit after 800k salary to owner > Owner wants to take out all profits each year > Corp has about 20 employees but no equipment to speak of. It > provides services but contracts out all work except job > supervision. > What are the pros and cons of revoking the S election and > paying 200 k in salary and 600k in dividends? > Tax saving appear to be 100k plus. taxable to the recipients. Wayne Brasch, CPA, M. S. Taxation << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Corp is is currently an S corp. Accounting method is accrual S corp return shows no profit after 800k salary to owner Owner wants to take out all profits each year Corp has about 20 employees but no equipment to speak of. It provides services but contracts out all work except job supervision. What are the pros and cons of revoking the S election and paying 200 k in salary and 600k in dividends? Tax saving appear to be 100k plus. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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