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Old 04-07-2005, 05:57 AM
Frederick Jorden
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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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> Dick Adams wrote:

> > I realize John Hancock went from being a mutual company
> > to being a stock company some years ago. My check for
> > $711 came from the State of Illinois because Hancock had
> > a 28 year old address.
> > > Is this "Other Income" or is there a special treatment

> > for it?


> John Hancock is an old Boston company, so what's Illinois
> got to do with it?
> anyway, John Hancock got bought out by a Canadian company,
> so I rolled over my IRA there to good old T Rowe Price,
> youknowwhere.


Escheat. The company must have nexus in Illinois and turned
over unclaimed stock proceeds to that state as required by
law. I know NY has a specialized auditors who chase after
these kinds of things.

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Old 04-06-2005, 03:18 PM
Phil Marti
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"Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

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> I realize John Hancock went from being a mutual company
> to being a stock company some years ago. My check for
> $711 came from the State of Illinois because Hancock had
> a 28 year old address.
> Is this "Other Income" or is there a special treatment
> for it?


It's a Schedule D transaction with the "buy" date of when
you first took out the policy and a basis of zero.

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Clarksburg, MD

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Old 04-05-2005, 09:12 AM
traalfaz2@aol.com
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Default Re: John Hancock

- quote -

> I realize John Hancock went from being a mutual company
> to being a stock company some years ago. My check for
> $711 came from the State of Illinois because Hancock had
> a 28 year old address.
> Is this "Other Income" or is there a special treatment
> for it?


This is a long term capital gain. Your cost basis as with
all Ins Co. demutualizations is zero. Buy date is thet date
the shares were issued. Don't recall excat date but believe
JHI demutualized back in 2001.

Dave

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Old 04-05-2005, 09:12 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

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> I realize John Hancock went from being a mutual company
> to being a stock company some years ago. My check for
> $711 came from the State of Illinois because Hancock had
> a 28 year old address.
> Is this "Other Income" or is there a special treatment
> for it?


Cap gain.

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Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 04-05-2005, 08:53 AM
Mike Lewis
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"Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote:

- quote -

> I realize John Hancock went from being a mutual company
> to being a stock company some years ago. My check for
> $711 came from the State of Illinois because Hancock had
> a 28 year old address.
> Is this "Other Income" or is there a special treatment
> for it?


If this is a "refund/dividend of premium " for a policy you
never took as an expense, I wouldn't do anything with it. If
its a true income item, I'd treat it as "other income" not
subject to SE tax.

Mike Lewis, CPA

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Old 04-05-2005, 08:14 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Dick Adams wrote:

- quote -

> I realize John Hancock went from being a mutual company
> to being a stock company some years ago. My check for
> $711 came from the State of Illinois because Hancock had
> a 28 year old address.
> Is this "Other Income" or is there a special treatment
> for it?


John Hancock is an old Boston company, so what's Illinois
got to do with it?

anyway, John Hancock got bought out by a Canadian company,
so I rolled over my IRA there to good old T Rowe Price,
youknowwhere.

ChEAr$$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
2 Apr 2005
13 days and counting

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Old 04-05-2005, 07:36 AM
A.G. Kalman
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Dick Adams wrote:

- quote -

> I realize John Hancock went from being a mutual company
> to being a stock company some years ago. My check for
> $711 came from the State of Illinois because Hancock had
> a 28 year old address.
> Is this "Other Income" or is there a special treatment
> for it?


Long Term Capital Gain.

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Alan
http://taxtopics.net

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Old 04-02-2005, 06:39 AM
Dick Adams
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Default John Hancock

I realize John Hancock went from being a mutual company
to being a stock company some years ago. My check for
$711 came from the State of Illinois because Hancock had
a 28 year old address.

Is this "Other Income" or is there a special treatment
for it?

Dick

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