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Thanks Dick, I had never even thought of such a pick up> Harlan, you MCP, trying to hit on a young girl by telling > her you thought she was older (rotflmao). Only you would > do this, Harlan. (still LoL). > Susan has gone to bed. I will her this in the morning so > she can start her day with a laugh. line. Down South heah, it's usually "Why honey child, you don't look THAT old." And it's "de rigeur" to complement all ladies by (sometimes with a little ole white lie) and complementing them on their supposed or assumed youth. But you're from Nawth Caarlina, so you know this. So I'm going to risk it and ask, what is a "MCP? "Modified Content Provider"? ================================================== ========== Harlan, mi amigo, an MCP is a Male Chauvenist Pig. And you must ne the only person on the face of this earth who would claim ignorance on this one. Harlan, I never tell lies - white or otherwise. Ask my sons "how old is your mother?" and they will reply "I don't know but she looks 23" and that is a truthful statement. I have told my 20 year old son he should start introducing his mother as his sister. I use to introduce her as my daughter but she didn't like that so how I introduce her as my trophy wife. ================================================== ========== ChEAr$$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA 2 Apr 2005 13 days and counting << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Sassy Baskets, EA" <sassybaskets[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Being the youngest EA I know
That used to be me.- quote - > Friend of mine lost his job last year and received
I believe it does and he meets the requirements.> unemployment. During this time, he paid for health insurance > for himself and his ex-wife as ordered by his divorce > decree. His former employer distributed his 401(k) to him, > and he did not roll it over. He thinks there is an > exception to the early distribution penalty for amounts paid > for health insurance while unemployed. My questions are: > 1. Does this exception apply to 401(k) distributions? I > seem to recall that it only applies to IRAs. - quote - > 2. If not, could he have rolled over the distribution to a
That's the one.> traditional IRA and then taken distributions without > penalty? > 3. Does the exception apply to the health insurance paid for > his ex-wife? I am thinking no, but that this would be > deductible as alimony. > On a similar note, I will be going back to school this fall > and cashing out my retirement account. I believe that a > similar exception applies up to the amount of my higher > education expenses, but that this, too, applies only to > IRAs. > 1. Can I roll it into a traditional IRA and immediately take > a distribution (up to the amount of the education expenses > I'll have this year) without penalty? I realize that I > would have to pay tax on the distribution. - quote - > 2. Would there be any benefit to doing a Roth IRA instead (I
I can't think of one.> don't plan on taking it all out in the same year, and would > rather put off paying tax on part of it)? - quote - > 3. What counts as higher education expenses? I read that
No.> room and board are included for students who are enrolled at > least half-time; does this include off-campus housing? > 4. Does it matter how long the money has been in the account? -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Sassy Baskets, EA wrote: - quote - > Being the youngest EA I know, I'm pretty weak on retirement
Somehow I thought you were older. (grin)> account stuff. I'm sure this will be much easier for some > of you: <Please refer to Moderator'a Endnote - quote - > Friend of mine lost his job last year and received
You need to get a copy of form 5329, AND the instructions> unemployment. During this time, he paid for health insurance > for himself and his ex-wife as ordered by his divorce > decree. His former employer distributed his 401(k) to him, > and he did not roll it over. He thinks there is an > exception to the early distribution penalty for amounts paid > for health insurance while unemployed. My questions are: > 1. Does this exception apply to 401(k) distributions? I > seem to recall that it only applies to IRAs. > 2. If not, could he have rolled over the distribution to a > traditional IRA and then taken distributions without > penalty? > 3. Does the exception apply to the health insurance paid for > his ex-wife? I am thinking no, but that this would be > deductible as alimony. > On a similar note, I will be going back to school this fall > and cashing out my retirement account. I believe that a > similar exception applies up to the amount of my higher > education expenses, but that this, too, applies only to > IRAs. > 1. Can I roll it into a traditional IRA and immediately take > a distribution (up to the amount of the education expenses > I'll have this year) without penalty? I realize that I > would have to pay tax on the distribution. > 2. Would there be any benefit to doing a Roth IRA instead (I > don't plan on taking it all out in the same year, and would > rather put off paying tax on part of it)? > 3. What counts as higher education expenses? I read that > room and board are included for students who are enrolled at > least half-time; does this include off-campus housing? > 4. Does it matter how long the money has been in the account? therefor. Then, all will be made clear. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA 1 Apr 2005 Endnote: Harlan, you MCP, trying to hit on a young girl by telling her you thought she was older (rotflmao). Only you would do this, Harlan. (still LoL). Susan has gone to bed. I will her this in the morning so she can start her day with a laugh. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Sassy Baskets, EA wrote: - quote - > Being the youngest EA I know, I'm pretty weak on retirement
The penalty will not apply to the extent that the person had> account stuff. I'm sure this will be much easier for some > of you: > Friend of mine lost his job last year and received > unemployment. During this time, he paid for health insurance > for himself and his ex-wife as ordered by his divorce > decree. His former employer distributed his 401(k) to him, > and he did not roll it over. He thinks there is an > exception to the early distribution penalty for amounts paid > for health insurance while unemployed. My questions are: > 1. Does this exception apply to 401(k) distributions? I > seem to recall that it only applies to IRAs. deductible medical expenses in excess of 7.5% of AGI. T/P does not have to itemize. IRS Pub 575 has all the exceptions to the 10% penalty for pensions and annuities. - quote - > 2. If not, could he have rolled over the distribution to a
#3 is correct.> traditional IRA and then taken distributions without > penalty? > 3. Does the exception apply to the health insurance paid for > his ex-wife? I am thinking no, but that this would be > deductible as alimony. In addition, there is an exception to the penalty if your friend reached age 55 in 2004. - quote - > On a similar note, I will be going back to school this fall
Correct.The exception does not exist for retirement plans.> and cashing out my retirement account. I believe that a > similar exception applies up to the amount of my higher > education expenses, but that this, too, applies only to > IRAs. - quote - > 1. Can I roll it into a traditional IRA and immediately take > a distribution (up to the amount of the education expenses > I'll have this year) without penalty? I realize that I > would have to pay tax on the distribution. Yes. - quote - > 2. Would there be any benefit to doing a Roth IRA instead (I
I'm confused. There is no direct rollover from a pension> don't plan on taking it all out in the same year, and would > rather put off paying tax on part of it)? plan to a Roth. You have to go Pension----> IRA-----Roth. Going from the pension plan to the IRA avoids taxation. Removing funds from IRA to pay for QHEE avoids 10% penalty. Moving IRA funds to Roth IRA is taxable and requires a separate financial analysis and estate planning analysis to determine if it right for you. - quote - > 3. What counts as higher education expenses? I read that
Quoting from Pub 590:> room and board are included for students who are enrolled at > least half-time; does this include off-campus housing? Qualified higher education expenses are tuition, fees, books, supplies, and equipment required for the enrollment or attendance of a student at an eligible educational institution. They also include expenses for special needs services incurred by or for special needs students in connection with their enrollment or attendance. In addition, if the individual is at least a half-time student, room and board are qualified higher education expenses. - quote - > 4. Does it matter how long the money has been in the account?
No.-- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Being the youngest EA I know, I'm pretty weak on retirement account stuff. I'm sure this will be much easier for some of you: Friend of mine lost his job last year and received unemployment. During this time, he paid for health insurance for himself and his ex-wife as ordered by his divorce decree. His former employer distributed his 401(k) to him, and he did not roll it over. He thinks there is an exception to the early distribution penalty for amounts paid for health insurance while unemployed. My questions are: 1. Does this exception apply to 401(k) distributions? I seem to recall that it only applies to IRAs. 2. If not, could he have rolled over the distribution to a traditional IRA and then taken distributions without penalty? 3. Does the exception apply to the health insurance paid for his ex-wife? I am thinking no, but that this would be deductible as alimony. On a similar note, I will be going back to school this fall and cashing out my retirement account. I believe that a similar exception applies up to the amount of my higher education expenses, but that this, too, applies only to IRAs. 1. Can I roll it into a traditional IRA and immediately take a distribution (up to the amount of the education expenses I'll have this year) without penalty? I realize that I would have to pay tax on the distribution. 2. Would there be any benefit to doing a Roth IRA instead (I don't plan on taking it all out in the same year, and would rather put off paying tax on part of it)? 3. What counts as higher education expenses? I read that room and board are included for students who are enrolled at least half-time; does this include off-campus housing? 4. Does it matter how long the money has been in the account? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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