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Old 04-05-2005, 08:34 AM
D. Stussy
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Default Re: IRS filing requirements for revocable living trust at death

johndwalls[at]earthlink.net wrote:

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> Dad died last year leaving all his assets to me and my
> brother via a "revocable living trust" naming us as "joint
> successor trustees" and all assets were immediately
> available to us without probate.
> The firm that drew up the trust says it automatically
> converts to an irrevocable trust upon dad's death. We plan
> to file a final 2004 1040 for dad. Beyond that, I'm getting
> conflicting info---do we or don't we file a 1041 for the
> estate.


That may depend on the state. In California, no.

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> The CPA says no, take the money and run. The IRS info line
> says maybe we have to file a 1041. Note: small estate; no
> estate tax for form 706 required. All live in same state;
> all US citizens.
> There has been a small amount of income produced since dad's
> death. Some if this income is tax deferred, so no 1099's for
> 2004 on that part. There's also a small home that has to be
> sold. So, do we or don't we file a 1041 for the estate?


If not needed, you may combine each share of the estate's
income onto the 1040, but pursuant to the regulations under
IRC 671, you have to attach a statement indicating that the
1040 has estate/trust income included in lieu of a 1041.
This disqualifies you from e-filing.

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Old 04-05-2005, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: IRS filing requirements for revocable living trust at death

johndwalls[at]earthlink.net wrote:

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> There has been a small amount of income produced since dad's
> death. Some if this income is tax deferred, so no 1099's for
> 2004 on that part. There's also a small home that has to be
> sold. So, do we or don't we file a 1041 for the estate?


If you can promptly distribute the assets (without sale) to
the beneficiaries, then I would likely not file a 1041. Any
income since death would simply be picked up by the
beneficiaries.

However, if you sell something (the small home), then you
just about have to file a 1041 to report that event. But, if
the situation was otherwise very clean, I might even skip
the 1041 in that case and simply have each beneficiary
report their respective share of the sale. So, it sort of
"depends" on how complicated the situation is.

MTW

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Old 04-01-2005, 08:06 AM
johndwalls@earthlink.net
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Default IRS filing requirements for revocable living trust at death

Dad died last year leaving all his assets to me and my
brother via a "revocable living trust" naming us as "joint
successor trustees" and all assets were immediately
available to us without probate.

The firm that drew up the trust says it automatically
converts to an irrevocable trust upon dad's death. We plan
to file a final 2004 1040 for dad. Beyond that, I'm getting
conflicting info---do we or don't we file a 1041 for the
estate.

The CPA says no, take the money and run. The IRS info line
says maybe we have to file a 1041. Note: small estate; no
estate tax for form 706 required. All live in same state;
all US citizens.

There has been a small amount of income produced since dad's
death. Some if this income is tax deferred, so no 1099's for
2004 on that part. There's also a small home that has to be
sold. So, do we or don't we file a 1041 for the estate?

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