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Old 04-02-2005, 07:36 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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Default Re: Allowable 1120S K-1 Losses?

"Ken B. Winger" <kbwing[at]comcast.net> wrote:

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> 1st Yr 2004 1120S, 2 S/H's, Husband & Wife, owned 50% each,
> Wife's materially participates where husband spent less than
> the required 500hrs.
> Total loss: 10k
> Husband S/H and Loan Basis - $5k
> Wife - same
> Based on the above facts:
> Q1: Would not the deductible loss be only $5k since husband
> is not at risk?


Why is the husband not at risk? Total loss is $10k, of
which $5k is his.

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> Q2: If correct on Q1, then would not the only way to take
> the disallowed loss is either by disposal of business or
> husband materially participates in business?


1 isn't correct. You're also mistaken on the passive
activity rules, as both spouses are material as long as one
is.

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David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
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Old 04-02-2005, 07:17 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Default Re: Allowable 1120S K-1 Losses?

Ken B. Winger wrote:

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> 1st Yr 2004 1120S, 2 S/H's, Husband & Wife, owned 50% each,
> Wife's materially participates where husband spent less than
> the required 500hrs.


Ah yes! Just as I thought (see above)

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> Total loss: 10k
> Husband S/H and Loan Basis - $5k
> Wife - same
> Based on the above facts:
> Q1: Would not the deductible loss be only $5k since husband
> is not at risk?
> Q2: If correct on Q1, then would not the only way to take
> the disallowed loss is either by disposal of business or
> husband materially participates in business?


Well, I've a client with exact same situation, 50/50, but
spouse (wife) doesn't participate.

So you're saying on the basis of stock ownership, the
husband is allowed no share of the loss?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
1 Apr 2005

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Old 04-01-2005, 06:49 AM
Ken B. Winger
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Default Allowable 1120S K-1 Losses?

1st Yr 2004 1120S, 2 S/H's, Husband & Wife, owned 50% each,
Wife's materially participates where husband spent less than
the required 500hrs.

Total loss: 10k
Husband S/H and Loan Basis - $5k
Wife - same

Based on the above facts:

Q1: Would not the deductible loss be only $5k since husband
is not at risk?

Q2: If correct on Q1, then would not the only way to take
the disallowed loss is either by disposal of business or
husband materially participates in business?

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