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The only penalty I can think of is that you forego any> > Corp filing fall under the informational return penalties or > > the corporation return penalties? > You would THINK that for any thing that is mandated, like > filing before a certain date there would be consequences, > like a penalty. and you're usually right. > Except in this case. No penalties I know of for late S > corp return (unless there happens to be tax due which isn't > usually the case). And I've never, ever , heard of any > penalties being so assessed. elections that might be advantageous, except for those that can be made on an amended return. That used to be the case for Section 179, but at least that trap is now removed. -- Tom Healy, CPA Boulder, CO Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > I'd like to add to this question. What if you missed the
I have seen penalties of $100 per late K-1 for someone who> > filing deadline for an S Corp that has not tax liability > > (i.e. no BIG tax or passive income issues)? Is there some > > sort of procedure such as is with a late S election where > > the IRS would accept the extension late if you showed > > reasonable cause? I tried looking around for a Rev Proc > > that might address this, but came up with nothing. > > > Also, if any, do the penalties associated with missing an S > > Corp filing fall under the informational return penalties or > > the corporation return penalties? > You would THINK that for any thing that is mandated, like > filing before a certain date there would be consequences, > like a penalty. and you're usually right. > Except in this case. No penalties I know of for late S > corp return (unless there happens to be tax due which isn't > usually the case). And I've never, ever , heard of any > penalties being so assessed. was habitually late. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
How about $50 per late K-1??? I believe that is a per month> > > > I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > > > > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > > > > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > > > > far. > > I'd like to add to this question. What if you missed the > > filing deadline for an S Corp that has not tax liability > > (i.e. no BIG tax or passive income issues)? Is there some > > sort of procedure such as is with a late S election where > > the IRS would accept the extension late if you showed > > reasonable cause? I tried looking around for a Rev Proc > > that might address this, but came up with nothing. > > > Also, if any, do the penalties associated with missing an S > > Corp filing fall under the informational return penalties or > > the corporation return penalties? > You would THINK that for any thing that is mandated, like > filing before a certain date there would be consequences, > like a penalty. and you're usually right. > Except in this case. No penalties I know of for late S > corp return (unless there happens to be tax due which isn't > usually the case). And I've never, ever , heard of any > penalties being so assessed. thing but not sure. -- Regards, Mark Rigotti << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
You would THINK that for any thing that is mandated, like> > > I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > > > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > > > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > > > far. > I'd like to add to this question. What if you missed the > filing deadline for an S Corp that has not tax liability > (i.e. no BIG tax or passive income issues)? Is there some > sort of procedure such as is with a late S election where > the IRS would accept the extension late if you showed > reasonable cause? I tried looking around for a Rev Proc > that might address this, but came up with nothing. > Also, if any, do the penalties associated with missing an S > Corp filing fall under the informational return penalties or > the corporation return penalties? filing before a certain date there would be consequences, like a penalty. and you're usually right. Except in this case. No penalties I know of for late S corp return (unless there happens to be tax due which isn't usually the case). And I've never, ever , heard of any penalties being so assessed. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
I'd like to add to this question. What if you missed the> > I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > > far. filing deadline for an S Corp that has not tax liability (i.e. no BIG tax or passive income issues)? Is there some sort of procedure such as is with a late S election where the IRS would accept the extension late if you showed reasonable cause? I tried looking around for a Rev Proc that might address this, but came up with nothing. Also, if any, do the penalties associated with missing an S Corp filing fall under the informational return penalties or the corporation return penalties? Thanks for the help. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Drew Edmundson wrote: - quote - > "Wayne Brasch" <waynebrasch[at]stowetel.com> wrote:
What really got me about the 75 day answer, is because I> > The due date for any corporation is 75 days after their tax > > year ends. In other words, if the tax year ended 12/31/2004 > > (and most S Corporations do end then), the return was due on > > 03/15/2005. > But 3-15 is only 74 days after 12-31 except in leap years. > The actual deadline is the 15th day of the third month after > the corporation's year end. So a corporation terminating on > 3-2-05 has a due date of 6-15-05. Which is 105 days after > their tax year ended. If the due date falls on a weekend or > legal holiday then it moves to the next business day. have two June 30th fiscal year corporations as clients, and suddenly I thought, with a 75 day rule, that I was always late in filing their form 7004's by September 15th! (lol) (31 + 31 + 15 days) ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Sun 27 mar 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Wayne Brasch wrote: - quote - > <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
Correction: due date is the 15th day of the third month> > What's the filing date for an S-Corp? > > > I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > > far. > The due date for any corporation is 75 days after their tax > year ends. In other words, if the tax year ended 12/31/2004 > (and most S Corporations do end then), the return was due on > 03/15/2005. following close of tax year. Thus for a Dec 31st close the due date is March 15, exactly 31 + 28 + 15 days after Dec 31, or... uh.. .. 74 days afterwards. Had me worried there for a minute, Wayne. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA 25 Mar 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Wayne Brasch" <waynebrasch[at]stowetel.com> wrote: - quote - > <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
But 3-15 is only 74 days after 12-31 except in leap years.> > What's the filing date for an S-Corp? > > > I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > > far. > The due date for any corporation is 75 days after their tax > year ends. In other words, if the tax year ended 12/31/2004 > (and most S Corporations do end then), the return was due on > 03/15/2005. The actual deadline is the 15th day of the third month after the corporation's year end. So a corporation terminating on 3-2-05 has a due date of 6-15-05. Which is 105 days after their tax year ended. If the due date falls on a weekend or legal holiday then it moves to the next business day. -- Drew Edmundson, CPA (NC) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| sumguyb[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
If the S-corp's year end was December 31, the due date was> I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. March 15. Regards, Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| sumguyb[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
If the S-corp's year end was December 31, the due date was> I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. March 15. Regards, Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
the instructions for the 2004 form 1120s under "when to> I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. file" says "In general, file Form 1120S by the 15th day of the 3rd month following the date the corporation's tax year ended as shown at the top of Form 1120S. For calendar year corporations, the due date is March 15, 2005. If the due date falls on a Saturday, Sunday, or legal holiday, file on the next business day. A corporation that has dissolved must generally file by the 3rd month after the date of dissolution." this may or may not contain the answer to your question, as you did not give enough information for anyone to form a complete and accurate response << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
Per IRS Pub 542> I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. When to file. Generally, a corporation must file its income tax return by the 15th day of the 3rd month after the end of its tax year. A new corporation filing a short-period return must generally file by the 15th day of the 3rd month after the short period ends. A corporation that has dissolved must generally file by the 15th day of the 3rd month after the date it dissolved. This would be the same whether it's S Corp or C Corp. Shirley Caylor << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "sumguyb[at]yahoo.com" <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
It's on the instructions to the form.> I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| sumguyb[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
Assuming it's a physical year (Dec 31st) corporation, March15th is the due date. And I'm betting that's the case. - quote - > I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to
there ARE no dumb questions; only unasked questions, and you> three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. came to the right place. But three IRS people not knowing the answer, that's amazing! and, with apologies to O'Reilly, "ridiculous". ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA 24 Mar 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Wow, I can answer that one. See page 3 of 1120S Instruction package mailed to anyone who files a 1120S. "When To File-- by the 15th day of the 3rd month following the date the corporation's tax year endedl. For calander year corporations that's March 15, 2005" I think you missed it. ed << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "sumguyb[at]yahoo.com" <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
March 15 unless you file for an extension.> I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. -- Tom Healy, CPA Boulder, CO Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
9 days ago> I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
The due date for any corporation is 75 days after their tax> I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. year ends. In other words, if the tax year ended 12/31/2004 (and most S Corporations do end then), the return was due on 03/15/2005. Wayne Brasch, CPA, M. S. Taxation << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
March 15th.-- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia taxman at negia.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <sumguyb[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > What's the filing date for an S-Corp?
March 15th.> I thought I was asking a dumb question but I've spoken to > three people on the IRS' business help line and no one knows > so far. They keep transferring me. 38 minutes on hold so > far. -- Regards, Mark Rigotti << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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