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Old 03-25-2005, 05:45 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:
> > "Katie" <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote:


> > > Thanks, David. I didn't know that. Massachusetts is so
> > > weird <G> .


> > Not just taxwise either.


> Well, I know it's happy hour here, but.. is it confession
> time there? (grin


You're right Harlan. I confess. I hate the simple minded,
corrupt, *#^&ing, liberal democrats who control this state.

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David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 03-25-2005, 03:50 AM
Stuart A. Bronstein
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Harlan Lunsford <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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> What gave me a laugh once about 20 years ago, was when a
> client received a penalty notice from that state, and we
> sent back a reply for waiver of said penalty, and some
> person from their department of revenue wrote back to tell
> us procedures for contesting the penalty. He said:
> "....and if you feel agrieved by....."
> "agrieved? (chuckle)


Hey! What's so funny??? I had to spend three years in law
school to learn how to use that word!

Stu

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Old 03-24-2005, 03:48 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"bonifide" <sutthoff[at]bc.edu> wrote:

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> Sorry for my late reply.
> Is it possible for investment related interest expense to be
> capitalized in the property I sold (or will sell), thus
> increasing the cost basis of the property or somehow carried
> forward and amortized against income over a period of time ?
> The problem I have understanding MA tax law on the matter
> of investment related interest expense is that the expense
> just seems to "disappear" so that it can't be used. Is this
> really the intent of the law?


What intent? Deductions are a matter of legislative grace.
There is no law directly or by reference in Massachusetts
that authorizes a deduction of interest on investments.
Hence there is no deduction. There is no Massachusetts (or
Federal law) directly or by reference that allows a
capitalization of interest on investments.

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David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 03-24-2005, 03:29 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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> > > > If you are a MA resident, I believe the interest expense
> > > > would be allowable as a deduction against other income,
> > > > assuming it is deductible for federal purposes (as
> > > > investment interest expense, perhaps). If you have no other
> > > > income, of course, there would be nothing to deduct it from,
> > > > and it would give you no tax benefit.


> > > Sorry Katie. The only interest expense one can ever deduct
> > > in MA is certain student loan interest within 60 months of
> > > repayment and business interest expense either on sch c or
> > > sch e. Investment interest expense is never deductible
> > > under any circumstances.


> > Thanks, David. I didn't know that. Massachusetts is so
> > weird <G> .


> I don't know if people still use the moniker, but MA used to
> be called "Taxachusetts."


I still use it. All. THE. TIME.

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David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 03-24-2005, 03:10 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Thomas Healy wrote:

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> I don't know if people still use the moniker, but MA used to
> be called "Taxachusetts."


Tom, I had occasion to consult with another EA up there on a
tax question last month, and she used the term,so it must
still be current.

What gave me a laugh once about 20 years ago, was when a
client received a penalty notice from that state, and we
sent back a reply for waiver of said penalty, and some
person from their department of revenue wrote back to tell
us procedures for contesting the penalty. He said:
"....and if you feel agrieved by....."

"agrieved? (chuckle)

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 03-24-2005, 03:10 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:
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> "Katie" <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Thanks, David. I didn't know that. Massachusetts is so
> > weird <G> .


> Not just taxwise either.


Well, I know it's happy hour here, but.. is it confession
time there? (grin

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 03-21-2005, 05:04 AM
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Sorry for my late reply.

Is it possible for investment related interest expense to be
capitalized in the property I sold (or will sell), thus
increasing the cost basis of the property or somehow carried
forward and amortized against income over a period of time ?
The problem I have understanding MA tax law on the matter
of investment related interest expense is that the expense
just seems to "disappear" so that it can't be used. Is this
really the intent of the law?

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Old 03-21-2005, 04:45 AM
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> > > If you are a MA resident, I believe the interest expense
> > > would be allowable as a deduction against other income,
> > > assuming it is deductible for federal purposes (as
> > > investment interest expense, perhaps). If you have no other
> > > income, of course, there would be nothing to deduct it from,
> > > and it would give you no tax benefit.


> > Sorry Katie. The only interest expense one can ever deduct
> > in MA is certain student loan interest within 60 months of
> > repayment and business interest expense either on sch c or
> > sch e. Investment interest expense is never deductible
> > under any circumstances.


> Thanks, David. I didn't know that. Massachusetts is so
> weird <G> .


I don't know if people still use the moniker, but MA used to
be called "Taxachusetts."

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Tom Healy, CPA
Boulder, CO
Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com

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Old 03-21-2005, 04:07 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"Katie" <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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> David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:
> > "Katie" <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > bonifide wrote:


> > > > I have a capital gain on a property I own in florida. I
> > > > incurred some interest expense related to the property.
> > > > Apparently MA tax law does not allow me to deduct the
> > > > interest expense against the capital gain (My accountant has
> > > > verified this).
> > > > > > > So, My question is what happens to the interest expense?
> > > > Can I use it in the future against some MA income or what?
> > > > Does it hust disappear? Any help would be appreciated.
> > > > Where can I get access to a comprehensive set of MA tax
> > > > code?


> > > Stand by to disregard my previous message (maybe Dick can
> > > delete it for me). I answered on the premise that you were
> > > a nonresident of MA, but evidently that is not the case.
> > > > > If you are a MA resident, I believe the interest expense
> > > would be allowable as a deduction against other income,
> > > assuming it is deductible for federal purposes (as
> > > investment interest expense, perhaps). If you have no other
> > > income, of course, there would be nothing to deduct it from,
> > > and it would give you no tax benefit.


> > Sorry Katie. The only interest expense one can ever deduct
> > in MA is certain student loan interest within 60 months of
> > repayment and business interest expense either on sch c or
> > sch e. Investment interest expense is never deductible
> > under any circumstances.


> Thanks, David. I didn't know that. Massachusetts is so
> weird <G> .


Not just taxwise either.

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David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 03-17-2005, 05:51 AM
Katie
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David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:
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> "Katie" <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > bonifide wrote:


> > > I have a capital gain on a property I own in florida. I
> > > incurred some interest expense related to the property.
> > > Apparently MA tax law does not allow me to deduct the
> > > interest expense against the capital gain (My accountant has
> > > verified this).
> > > > > So, My question is what happens to the interest expense?
> > > Can I use it in the future against some MA income or what?
> > > Does it hust disappear? Any help would be appreciated.
> > > Where can I get access to a comprehensive set of MA tax
> > > code?


> > Stand by to disregard my previous message (maybe Dick can
> > delete it for me). I answered on the premise that you were
> > a nonresident of MA, but evidently that is not the case.
> > > If you are a MA resident, I believe the interest expense

> > would be allowable as a deduction against other income,
> > assuming it is deductible for federal purposes (as
> > investment interest expense, perhaps). If you have no other
> > income, of course, there would be nothing to deduct it from,
> > and it would give you no tax benefit.


> Sorry Katie. The only interest expense one can ever deduct
> in MA is certain student loan interest within 60 months of
> repayment and business interest expense either on sch c or
> sch e. Investment interest expense is never deductible
> under any circumstances.


Thanks, David. I didn't know that. Massachusetts is so
weird <G> .

Katie

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Old 03-12-2005, 01:57 PM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"Katie" <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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> bonifide wrote:

> > I have a capital gain on a property I own in florida. I
> > incurred some interest expense related to the property.
> > Apparently MA tax law does not allow me to deduct the
> > interest expense against the capital gain (My accountant has
> > verified this).
> > > So, My question is what happens to the interest expense?

> > Can I use it in the future against some MA income or what?
> > Does it hust disappear? Any help would be appreciated.
> > Where can I get access to a comprehensive set of MA tax
> > code?


> Stand by to disregard my previous message (maybe Dick can
> delete it for me). I answered on the premise that you were
> a nonresident of MA, but evidently that is not the case.
> If you are a MA resident, I believe the interest expense
> would be allowable as a deduction against other income,
> assuming it is deductible for federal purposes (as
> investment interest expense, perhaps). If you have no other
> income, of course, there would be nothing to deduct it from,
> and it would give you no tax benefit.


Sorry Katie. The only interest expense one can ever deduct
in MA is certain student loan interest within 60 months of
repayment and business interest expense either on sch c or
sch e. Investment interest expense is never deductible
under any circumstances.

--
David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 03-09-2005, 10:17 PM
Katie
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bonifide wrote:

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> I have a capital gain on a property I own in florida. I
> incurred some interest expense related to the property.
> Apparently MA tax law does not allow me to deduct the
> interest expense against the capital gain (My accountant has
> verified this).
> So, My question is what happens to the interest expense?
> Can I use it in the future against some MA income or what?
> Does it hust disappear? Any help would be appreciated.
> Where can I get access to a comprehensive set of MA tax
> code?


Stand by to disregard my previous message (maybe Dick can
delete it for me). I answered on the premise that you were
a nonresident of MA, but evidently that is not the case.

If you are a MA resident, I believe the interest expense
would be allowable as a deduction against other income,
assuming it is deductible for federal purposes (as
investment interest expense, perhaps). If you have no other
income, of course, there would be nothing to deduct it from,
and it would give you no tax benefit.

The Massachusetts form instructions will probably answer
most of your questions. You can find a link to
Massachusetts tax forms and instructions at
www.taxadmin.org.

If you really need to look at the statute, you can probably
access it by starting with the State of Massachusetts web
site.

Katie in San Diego

The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and
does not constitute legal or professional advice.

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Old 03-09-2005, 10:17 PM
Katie
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bonifide wrote:

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> I have a capital gain on a property I own in florida. I
> incurred some interest expense related to the property.
> Apparently MA tax law does not allow me to deduct the
> interest expense against the capital gain (My accountant has
> verified this).
> So, My question is what happens to the interest expense?
> Can I use it in the future against some MA income or what?
> Does it hust disappear? Any help would be appreciated.
> Where can I get access to a comprehensive set of MA tax
> code?


The Massachusetts form instructions will probably answer
most of your questions. You can find a link to
Massachusetts tax information at www.taxadmin.org.

If you really need the code, you can probably access it by
starting with the State of Massachusetts web site.

However, I think the answer to your question may be that the
interest expense may be allowed for Massachusetts purposes
(as whatever it is for federal purposes, e.g. investment
interest), but it offsets only certain kinds of income, not
including capital gains. If you have no other Massachusetts
source income, the deduction does you no good.

Katie in San Diego

The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and
does not constitute legal or professional advice.

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Old 03-08-2005, 11:12 AM
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Default Interest and capital gains

I have a capital gain on a property I own in florida. I
incurred some interest expense related to the property.
Apparently MA tax law does not allow me to deduct the
interest expense against the capital gain (My accountant has
verified this).

So, My question is what happens to the interest expense?
Can I use it in the future against some MA income or what?
Does it hust disappear? Any help would be appreciated.
Where can I get access to a comprehensive set of MA tax
code?

Thanks

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