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| "Harlan Lunsford" wrote: - quote - > ...
Returns aren't subject to FOI requests, but rather must fit> But when you say use a "disclosure request", are you > speaking of a FOI request? And if so, doesn't that take > money? other disclosure statutes. All requests go the same people who fuss over which law applies, so requestors needn't normally be bothered there. There is a fee: hours, plus cents per page on all type requests. Where Form 4506 doesn't fit, you write and tell IRS disclosure people what you want and who you are. Reg, Fred F. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| TaxSrv wrote: - quote - > > > ...Form 4506....
Good information there Fred, and thanks. I remember> > I don't think so, Fred. > > ... > > so I don't know whether a shareholder could > > qualify to receive copies of the 1120S. > > > If the family business is a corporation and he's not an > > officer or director, but "just" a shareholder, I'm pretty > > sure the answer is no. > But section 6103(e) says disclosure is permitted, Harlan; > S-Corp - anybody on a K-1, C-Corp - 1% or more S/H. I > checked IRS' Manual on irs.gov, under disclosure, and for a > S/H it looks like they want you coming in with a disclosure > request, not merely Form 4506. For an S-Corp, you're > entitled to the full document (minus probable redactions, > like other S/H SSN's), under the Privacy Act alone. For > C-Corps, I can see a possible reason for not "advertising" > on Form 4506. A 1% institutional investor et.al. can obtain > an 1120 copy of some pretty big companies, and typically > containing lots more financial detail than required in even > SEC filings! about...... 17 years ago, a client couldn't get that information, IRS refused him. But when you say use a "disclosure request", are you speaking of a FOI request? And if so, doesn't that take money? ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Sun 20 Mar 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > ...Form 4506....
But section 6103(e) says disclosure is permitted, Harlan;> I don't think so, Fred. > ... > so I don't know whether a shareholder could > qualify to receive copies of the 1120S. > If the family business is a corporation and he's not an > officer or director, but "just" a shareholder, I'm pretty > sure the answer is no. S-Corp - anybody on a K-1, C-Corp - 1% or more S/H. I checked IRS' Manual on irs.gov, under disclosure, and for a S/H it looks like they want you coming in with a disclosure request, not merely Form 4506. For an S-Corp, you're entitled to the full document (minus probable redactions, like other S/H SSN's), under the Privacy Act alone. For C-Corps, I can see a possible reason for not "advertising" on Form 4506. A 1% institutional investor et.al. can obtain an 1120 copy of some pretty big companies, and typically containing lots more financial detail than required in even SEC filings! Fred F. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| TaxSrv wrote: - quote - > "bingsell" wrote:
I don't think so, Fred.> > ...for over 7 years, I have requested that my family > > send me copies of all the financial records of the family > > business on an annual basis. > > > ...for over 7 years, except for an occasional K-1 statement, > > I have yet to see any financial records sent to me. > > ... > > what can I do? > You may obtain copies of the returns (at $39 each) by filing > Form 4506, available at www.irs.gov. He referred to it as a "family business". This does not mean its a partnership (in which case he could qualify to receive the 1065, or a sub s corporation, in which case it's "like" a parternship, but not a partnership, so I don't know whether a shareholder could qualify to receive copies of the 1120S. If the family business is a corporation and he's not an officer or director, but "just" a shareholder, I'm pretty sure the answer is no. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Sat 12 Mar 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "TaxSrv" <n3_eu[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > "bingsell" wrote:
You can also see a lawyer, who will help you get copies of> > ...for over 7 years, I have requested that my family > > send me copies of all the financial records of the family > > business on an annual basis. > > > ...for over 7 years, except for an occasional K-1 statement, > > I have yet to see any financial records sent to me. > > ... > > what can I do? > You may obtain copies of the returns (at $39 each) by filing > Form 4506, available at www.irs.gov. everything to which you are entitled. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "bingsell" wrote: - quote - > ...for over 7 years, I have requested that my family
You may obtain copies of the returns (at $39 each) by filing> send me copies of all the financial records of the family > business on an annual basis. > ...for over 7 years, except for an occasional K-1 statement, > I have yet to see any financial records sent to me. > ... > what can I do? Form 4506, available at www.irs.gov. Fred F. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| bingsell wrote: - quote - > I need legal advice. I am a part owner of a family business
this will NOT be legal advice, since I'm no lawyer, and> in the state of oregon, usa. shares were issued to all > members of the family. can't even practice law. - quote - > for over 7 years, I have requested that my family send me
Reasonable request> copies of all the financial records of the family business > on an annual basis. - quote - > when I say financial records, I mean annual tax returns,
Nothing.> balance sheets, income statements, etc.. > for over 7 years, except for an occasional K-1 statement, I > have yet to see any financial records sent to me. > in fact, all members of the family have ignored me whenever > I have asked for access to all the records. > what can I do? - quote - > I spoke to a friend of mine who is a tax accountant, and he
Not true.> said that what they are doing is against the law. - quote - > according to my tax accountant friend, their denial to
Not true, since you are furnished schedule k-1.> provide me with this financial information is preventing me > from filing accurate tax returns. is this true? - quote - > is it true that I have the legal right to receive copies of
I know of no "right". Perhaps if you were in any danger of> all the financial records like tax returns, balance sheets, > income statements, etc. if I request it? being held liable for acts of the business. BTW, Is this a partnership really or a Subchapter S corporation? It would seem to be that it is the latter, since you speak of "shares". - quote - > any info would be most appreciated. thank you.
Not a matter for the IRS.> if someone knows of any way via the internet that I can > contact an irs agent to ask them these same questions, > please do forward that info to me. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Tue 8 Mar 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| bingsell wrote: - quote - > I need legal advice. I am a part owner of a family business
This is an OR law question. Most participants are not> in the state of oregon, usa. shares were issued to all > members of the family. > for over 7 years, I have requested that my family send me > copies of all the financial records of the family business > on an annual basis. > .when I say financial records, I mean annual tax returns, > balance sheets, income statements, etc.. > for over 7 years, except for an occasional K-1 statement, I > have yet to see any financial records sent to me. > in fact, all members of the family have ignored me whenever > I have asked for access to all the records. > what can I do? > I spoke to a friend of mine who is a tax accountant, and he > said that what they are doing is against the law. > according to my tax accountant friend, their denial to > provide me with this financial information is preventing me > from filing accurate tax returns. is this true? > is it true that I have the legal right to receive copies of > all the financial records like tax returns, balance sheets, > income statements, etc. if I request it? > any info would be most appreciated. thank you. > if someone knows of any way via the internet that I can > contact an irs agent to ask them these same questions, > please do forward that info to me. qualified to answer this question. But generally minority stock owners only have a right to be ignored. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I need legal advice. I am a part owner of a family business in the state of oregon, usa. shares were issued to all members of the family. for over 7 years, I have requested that my family send me copies of all the financial records of the family business on an annual basis. ..when I say financial records, I mean annual tax returns, balance sheets, income statements, etc.. for over 7 years, except for an occasional K-1 statement, I have yet to see any financial records sent to me. in fact, all members of the family have ignored me whenever I have asked for access to all the records. what can I do? I spoke to a friend of mine who is a tax accountant, and he said that what they are doing is against the law. according to my tax accountant friend, their denial to provide me with this financial information is preventing me from filing accurate tax returns. is this true? is it true that I have the legal right to receive copies of all the financial records like tax returns, balance sheets, income statements, etc. if I request it? any info would be most appreciated. thank you. if someone knows of any way via the internet that I can contact an irs agent to ask them these same questions, please do forward that info to me. thanks again. sincerely.... << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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