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| Dan Lanciani wrote: - quote - > Each year I prepare my mother's tax return and in almost all
The exempt interest is not included in gross income for> cases no tax is due. By the table in the instructions she > is not even required to file, but I always figured it was > better to have the return on record. > On those rare occasions when some small tax is due the cause > is generally muni bond interest helping to push some social > security into the taxable range. Taking the table in the > instructions literally it appears that filing is not > required even in this circumstance. The footnote explicitly > says not to consider social security income, and muni exempt > interest is not part of gross income (is it?). I always had > the vague notion that filing must be required if a tax would > be due, but it doesn't actually say that anywhere. > Am I missing something or is possible to have a situation > where you are not required to file but pay tax if you elect > to file? If so I wonder if I am doing my mother a > disservice by filing, though the amount is very small. > In either case, are there other problems with not filing? > For example, my mother generally has a bond or two come due > so there may be a significant 1099B total gross sales, but > little-to-no actual gain. Does the IRS care that this is > never matched with a schedule D? purposes of who has to file, but taxable social security is included in gross income for who has to file. It's who came first, the chicken or the egg. Example for t/p age 65 and single. Filing requirement is GI of at least $9150. T/p has pension of $9000 and muni bond interest of $9000. SSA benefits are $18000. Taxable SSA is $1000 (one half of the excess above $25,000). GI is now $10,000 and the taxpayer has to file and pay tax. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Each year I prepare my mother's tax return and in almost all cases no tax is due. By the table in the instructions she is not even required to file, but I always figured it was better to have the return on record. On those rare occasions when some small tax is due the cause is generally muni bond interest helping to push some social security into the taxable range. Taking the table in the instructions literally it appears that filing is not required even in this circumstance. The footnote explicitly says not to consider social security income, and muni exempt interest is not part of gross income (is it?). I always had the vague notion that filing must be required if a tax would be due, but it doesn't actually say that anywhere. Am I missing something or is possible to have a situation where you are not required to file but pay tax if you elect to file? If so I wonder if I am doing my mother a disservice by filing, though the amount is very small. In either case, are there other problems with not filing? For example, my mother generally has a bond or two come due so there may be a significant 1099B total gross sales, but little-to-no actual gain. Does the IRS care that this is never matched with a schedule D? Dan Lanciani ddl[at]danlan.*com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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