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| <docrock711cc[at]hotmail.net> wrote: - quote - > Here's my situation/question:
That works.> I'm a computer programmer who's listed as an S Corp. Last > year, I had NO clients and earned NO income. But I continued > to pay myself a salary up to August since I had money in my > corporate account. I paid myself $45K (1120S compensation of > officers) and had $5K of other expenses. - quote - > Here's the question: When I go to my 1040 and enter $50K (as
Well....... $45,000 in wages. A $50,000 loss on the S-Corp.> a loss) on line 17 (Rent, royalty, partners, S Corp), my > refund numbers jump in such a positive direction that it > makes me think that I'm doing something seriously wrong. Without knowing the rest of your situation, it looks like a small loss so far. The difference is that when you paid yourself a wage, you deducted payroll taxes, so you are likely receiving a refund of taxes withheld. BTW, you did remember to deduct the employER share of payroll taxes on your 1120-S, didn't you? Do you have a NOL ot carry forward or back? - quote - > When reporting corporation losses do I include salary paid
You would enter whatever result you get on the K-1 form> to officers (which is just me)? Should I only enter $5K > instead of $50K on that line? attached to your 1120-S. You might consider runnig your situation past someone just to see that you didn't miss something. Bryan -- Bryan Kellar, EA Oregon Tax Help, Inc. -- Portland, Oregon www.oregontaxhelp.com www.canadatax.org << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| docrock711cc[at]hotmail.net wrote: - quote - > Here's my situation/question:
Of course the corporation gets a deduction for your $45,000> I'm a computer programmer who's listed as an S Corp. Last > year, I had NO clients and earned NO income. But I continued > to pay myself a salary up to August since I had money in my > corporate account. I paid myself $45K (1120S compensation of > officers) and had $5K of other expenses. > Here's the question: When I go to my 1040 and enter $50K (as > a loss) on line 17 (Rent, royalty, partners, S Corp), my > refund numbers jump in such a positive direction that it > makes me think that I'm doing something seriously wrong. > When reporting corporation losses do I include salary paid > to officers (which is just me)? Should I only enter $5K > instead of $50K on that line? > Advanced thanks to whoever chooses to respond. salary on the 1120S. Otherwise, you would be paying tax twice on that $45,000 -- once as salary, and again as S corporation income. The extent to which the S corporation's loss, flowing through to you, can be deducted from other income on your return depends on factors such as your tax basis in the corporation. It sounds as though you are active in the corporation's business, so the passive loss limitations should not apply in this situation. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "docrock711cc[at]hotmail.net" <docrock711cc[at]hotmail.net> wrote: - quote - > Here's my situation/question:
Essentially you have a net zero income from the S> I'm a computer programmer who's listed as an S Corp. Last > year, I had NO clients and earned NO income. But I continued > to pay myself a salary up to August since I had money in my > corporate account. I paid myself $45K (1120S compensation of > officers) and had $5K of other expenses. > Here's the question: When I go to my 1040 and enter $50K (as > a loss) on line 17 (Rent, royalty, partners, S Corp), my > refund numbers jump in such a positive direction that it > makes me think that I'm doing something seriously wrong. > When reporting corporation losses do I include salary paid > to officers (which is just me)? Should I only enter $5K > instead of $50K on that line? corporation ($50K salary less $50K K-1 loss). All it cost you was payroll taxes. If things are looking up now (or might before the end of summer), you might want to put the corporate tax return on extension so that you could contribute to a SEP based on the salary (if you have enough other income so that your tax rate is at least 25%). Otherwise, if you have the funds, put $3k into a Roth IRA. What you put on Schedule E is the information from the Schedule K-1 of the corporation. -- Tom Healy, CPA Boulder, CO Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "docrock711cc[at]hotmail.net" <docrock711cc[at]hotmail.net> wrote: - quote - > Here's my situation/question:
Clearly you did not do something right. For one thing, you> I'm a computer programmer who's listed as an S Corp. Last > year, I had NO clients and earned NO income. But I continued > to pay myself a salary up to August since I had money in my > corporate account. I paid myself $45K (1120S compensation of > officers) and had $5K of other expenses. > Here's the question: When I go to my 1040 and enter $50K (as > a loss) on line 17 (Rent, royalty, partners, S Corp), my > refund numbers jump in such a positive direction that it > makes me think that I'm doing something seriously wrong. > When reporting corporation losses do I include salary paid > to officers (which is just me)? Should I only enter $5K > instead of $50K on that line? > Advanced thanks to whoever chooses to respond. don't simply use page 1 of the s-corp return and dump the bottom line number onto your 1040. Which begs the question, did you do the s-corp return properly, and I suspect not. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| docrock711cc[at]hotmail.net wrote: - quote - > When I go to my 1040 and enter $50K (as
I think you typoed "Schedule E, page 2."> a loss) on line 17 (Rent, royalty, partners, S Corp) - quote - > When reporting corporation losses do I include salary paid
You should report the numbers that are on your K-1 on SchEp2> to officers (which is just me)? (or elsewhere, as appropriate), and the number in Box 1 of your W-2 on Line 7. I think entering the W-2 will fix your "problem." Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| You are doing it right. deduct the entire loss. Actually it's offset by your salary income so your taxes shouldn't "jump". ed << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Here's my situation/question: I'm a computer programmer who's listed as an S Corp. Last year, I had NO clients and earned NO income. But I continued to pay myself a salary up to August since I had money in my corporate account. I paid myself $45K (1120S compensation of officers) and had $5K of other expenses. Here's the question: When I go to my 1040 and enter $50K (as a loss) on line 17 (Rent, royalty, partners, S Corp), my refund numbers jump in such a positive direction that it makes me think that I'm doing something seriously wrong. When reporting corporation losses do I include salary paid to officers (which is just me)? Should I only enter $5K instead of $50K on that line? Advanced thanks to whoever chooses to respond. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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