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| eveacct wrote: - quote - > my question is to Phoebe regarding basis problem.
I misread, and assumed you were the S-corp owner (as opposed> What type of problem? to a preparer). I don't think there's a basis problem; by "basis issue" I meant that you should remember to calculate basis. IME, home daycares often have a loss, particularly in the first year, especially because of the generous home office rules and the per diem allowance for meals provided. And IME, do-it-yourself-ers are often oblivious to basis limitations on losses. For a one-person company, it's not usually an issue, but the per diem meals allowance (in excess of what the company paid) could cause a loss in excess of basis. Unless the per diem is treated like percentage depletion, which is a possibility (never had an S-corp daycare). But my head is too full of other people's returns to even start looking it up. Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Phoebe Roberts, EA" <phoebe[at]cottagesoft.com> wrote: - quote - > eveacct wrote:
Thanks all for the answer to the form 8829. However my> > The instructions for a day care indicate form > > 8829 should be used to determine indirect cost however form > > 8829 refers to Schedule C. The SCorp has to file form > > 1120S. > Use the 8829 as a worksheet. Enter the pro-rated amount of > each expense on the most-appropriate line of the 1120S. > IMHO, this isn't a good do-it-yourself situation, because > IME you may have basis issues. question is to Phoebe regarding basis problem. What type of problem? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Thomas Healy wrote:
I am not averse to calculating this after year end and> > "eveacct" <eve_acct[at]ameritech.net> wrote: > > > The entity is an SCorp with one shareholder. The day care > > > center is licensed and operates out of the shareholder's > > > residence. The instructions for a day care indicate form > > > 8829 should be used to determine indirect cost however form > > > 8829 refers to Schedule C. The SCorp has to file form > > > 1120S. > > Use the form 8829 as a worksheet to figure out what the day > > care deduction should be. Then have the corporation > > reimburse the employee/shareholder for that amount. The > > reimbursement will be non-taxable to the employee and give a > > deduction to the S corporation. > Seems to me, Tom, that this issue should have been addressed > before 12/31, and reimbursement made on that basis. adjusting distributions or loans accordingly. -- Tom Healy, CPA Boulder, CO Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Thomas Healy wrote: - quote - > "eveacct" <eve_acct[at]ameritech.net> wrote:
Seems to me, Tom, that this issue should have been addressed> > The entity is an SCorp with one shareholder. The day care > > center is licensed and operates out of the shareholder's > > residence. The instructions for a day care indicate form > > 8829 should be used to determine indirect cost however form > > 8829 refers to Schedule C. The SCorp has to file form > > 1120S. > Use the form 8829 as a worksheet to figure out what the day > care deduction should be. Then have the corporation > reimburse the employee/shareholder for that amount. The > reimbursement will be non-taxable to the employee and give a > deduction to the S corporation. before 12/31, and reimbursement made on that basis. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Mon 7 mar 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "eveacct" <eve_acct[at]ameritech.net> wrote: - quote - > The entity is an SCorp with one shareholder. The day care
Use the form 8829 as a worksheet to figure out what the day> center is licensed and operates out of the shareholder's > residence. The instructions for a day care indicate form > 8829 should be used to determine indirect cost however form > 8829 refers to Schedule C. The SCorp has to file form > 1120S. care deduction should be. Then have the corporation reimburse the employee/shareholder for that amount. The reimbursement will be non-taxable to the employee and give a deduction to the S corporation. -- Tom Healy, CPA Boulder, CO Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| eveacct wrote: - quote - > The instructions for a day care indicate form
Use the 8829 as a worksheet. Enter the pro-rated amount of> 8829 should be used to determine indirect cost however form > 8829 refers to Schedule C. The SCorp has to file form > 1120S. each expense on the most-appropriate line of the 1120S. IMHO, this isn't a good do-it-yourself situation, because IME you may have basis issues. Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| The entity is an SCorp with one shareholder. The day care center is licensed and operates out of the shareholder's residence. The instructions for a day care indicate form 8829 should be used to determine indirect cost however form 8829 refers to Schedule C. The SCorp has to file form 1120S. Any help out there? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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