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Old 03-24-2005, 04:27 AM
Stuart A. Bronstein
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Harlan Lunsford <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:

> > I don't practice in Nevada, so I can say with certainty. In
> > California when shares are "retired" they revert to
> > authorized but unissued status. So they are available to
> > again be issued later if all the appropriate legal
> > requirements are met.


> Most states, if not all, subscribe to the Model Corporations
> Act, don't they? So I would think this is a pretty good
> answer. Anyway, that's the way I learned it.


Wow! Something right from a lawyer???
From California???

Harlan, you're getting soft. ;-)

Stu

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Old 03-21-2005, 06:01 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:
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> Mark3324 <user[at]domain.invalid> wrote:

> > I understand about amending the articles of incorp. And I
> > understand why you would ask, "why would you want to do
> > this?"
> > > But I thought the question was a one of accounting practice,

> > and what a "retired" share really means.


> What you are asking is a legal question, not a tax or even
> an accounting question.
> I don't practice in Nevada, so I can say with certainty. In
> California when shares are "retired" they revert to
> authorized but unissued status. So they are available to
> again be issued later if all the appropriate legal
> requirements are met.


Most states, if not all, subscribe to the Model Corporations
Act, don't they? So I would think this is a pretty good
answer. Anyway, that's the way I learned it.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
Sun 20 Mar 2005

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Old 03-18-2005, 01:01 PM
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Mark3324 wrote:

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> I understand about amending the articles of incorp. And I
> understand why you would ask, "why would you want to do
> this?"
> But I thought the question was a one of accounting practice,
> and what a "retired" share really means.


What a "retired" share really means is not an accounting
question. It is a corporate law question. The accounting
treatment follows from the corporate law.

Katie in San Diego

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does not constitute legal or professional advice.

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Old 03-18-2005, 11:26 AM
Stuart A. Bronstein
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Mark3324 <user[at]domain.invalid> wrote:

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> I understand about amending the articles of incorp. And I
> understand why you would ask, "why would you want to do
> this?"
> But I thought the question was a one of accounting practice,
> and what a "retired" share really means.


What you are asking is a legal question, not a tax or even
an accounting question.

I don't practice in Nevada, so I can say with certainty. In
California when shares are "retired" they revert to
authorized but unissued status. So they are available to
again be issued later if all the appropriate legal
requirements are met.

Stu

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Old 03-17-2005, 05:13 AM
Mark3324
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Default Re: Can you issue more shares to cover retired shares?

I understand about amending the articles of incorp. And I
understand why you would ask, "why would you want to do
this?"

But I thought the question was a one of accounting practice,
and what a "retired" share really means.

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Old 03-07-2005, 07:34 AM
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Mark3324 wrote:

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> This has to do with Nevada corp, if it matters...
> First of all, it's my understanding that in accounting
> practice, a share that is bought back and "retired" is
> removed from circulation forever. It does not even go back
> to the treasury.
> If that is correct, then here is my question: Say the
> corporation has 1000 shared authorized. All 1000 are in
> circulation. They buy back 500 and retired them. Can the
> corp issue a new set of 500?


This is a question of corporate law, not a tax question, so
it really doesn't belong here.

My guess is that you would have to amend the articles of
incorporation to provide for additional authorized stock; in
other words, you could not reissue the stock that was
retired. But what do I know <G> ? You need to ask a Nevada
lawyer.

Katie in San Diego

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does not constitute legal or professional advice.

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Old 03-04-2005, 12:12 AM
William Brenner
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Since this is not a tax question, I -- as a non tax person
-- will respond.

Just what would be accomplished by this? It would appear
that the outstanding stock position would be the same as it
was prior to the buy-back.

Stock buy-backs are usually done following the issuance of
new ~additional~ shares utilized to purchase or "merge with"
another company. The purpose is to reduce the total shares
outstanding, thus decreasing the dilution of the purchasing
company's shares.

Other buy-backs of non inflated shares are done to reduce
the total number of outstanding shares in hopes of causing
an increase in share price. This sometimes occurs when a
company is flush with cash and does not want to expand.

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Old 03-03-2005, 11:34 PM
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"Mark3324" <user[at]domain.invalid> wrote:

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> This has to do with Nevada corp, if it matters...
> First of all, it's my understanding that in accounting
> practice, a share that is bought back and "retired" is
> removed from circulation forever. It does not even go back
> to the treasury.
> If that is correct, then here is my question: Say the
> corporation has 1000 shared authorized. All 1000 are in
> circulation. They buy back 500 and retired them. Can the
> corp issue a new set of 500?


That's a legal, not a tax question. But I think that the
corporation needs to amend their articles of incorporation
to increase the number of authorized shares.

--
Tom Healy, CPA
Boulder, CO
Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com

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Old 03-03-2005, 07:47 AM
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Default Can you issue more shares to cover retired shares?

This has to do with Nevada corp, if it matters...

First of all, it's my understanding that in accounting
practice, a share that is bought back and "retired" is
removed from circulation forever. It does not even go back
to the treasury.

If that is correct, then here is my question: Say the
corporation has 1000 shared authorized. All 1000 are in
circulation. They buy back 500 and retired them. Can the
corp issue a new set of 500?

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