rulon wrote:

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When I see you in late May, Paul, I'll lgive you more
perspective if you want it. And if you buy me a drink, the
story will get even more juicy.

Closing the business however is not an option, for this is
the only thing he knows.

Hmmm... maybe.... if we (he) incorporates under another name
next year , and..... (let your mind run with this one!
grin)

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
Mon 7 mar 2005

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TaxmanHog wrote:
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Last first. I certainly hope it's not the kind of attitude
she has also. But we'll see.

Thanks so much for your comments, TMHog. They are really so
much appreciated. In the back of my mind I kinda thought
it might depend on geography, so from past experience I have
hope that we... uh... he .. (client) has some more time.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
Mon 7 mar 2005

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First... a LARGE retainer up front. Council on closing or
selling business. Can this be a viable operation if the
current taxes cannot be paid??

Paul Woodward

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"Harlan Lunsford" wrote...
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Have him continue to send in the part-pays on the older
periods, and -STAY- current with depositing from this point
forward!!!!, ACS will not be able to handle the TFRP issue,
and will queue the case for delivery to the field as soon as
practical

I suspect it will not take too long, Trust Fund taxes on
recent periods will give it a HIGH risk score, (modernized
version of RWMS score you might recall from the 'ol days).

These risk levels are dynamic, specific to each group's work
load capacity and cases in the queue for it's geographic
area.

I hope that's not the type of attitude this RO truly has!

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Harlan Lunsford wrote:

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Do you mean what would I do as the IRS officer ?-) or as
you the advisor ?-) or as the client ?-(

I know a guy who lost his house to the IRS over just such a
problem!

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TaxmanHog wrote:
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Thanks, TMH; I really appreciate your thoughts, just as Phil
predicted (see above).

I'm wondering right now though, is there some magical
threshold amount , say.. 25,000$, that determines when the
case gets sent for "personal" review? We're talking here
about three quarters of 941 taxes of about 53K$ you know.
How long do you reckon we (I mean "he") can keep on sending
in 1000 or so at a time?

But when the case DOES come down , and push comes to shove,
and IF that same RO gets the case (shudder!) I can hear
her now: "WhAT? that white boy again?" Talk about bias.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
Mon 28 Feb 2005

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Phil Marti wrote:
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Oh boy, speak of the devil! Just read your reply, which
is first, and notice that Taxman Hog's reply is next. I'm
replying to you first, before reading his. I can HARDly
wait!

Stay tuned.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
Mon 28 Feb 2005

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"Harlan Lunsford" <> wrote.....

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Most likely, the case will flow out to the same Revenue
Officer Group, who receives the case is a luck of the draw
it this point, the GM's do scan the incoming QUEUE, if they
are quick witted, might see the connection between the Sole
Proprietor case and the Corporation Case, this is not always
clear at the out set. Grade level of the case 9/11/12, and
RO case load levels the day the GM is deciding who gets what
will be the driving factor.

Since they involve the same ~Principal~ actor, "Very Bad
Boy.... Indeed", the GM might assign the case to the same
R/O, OTOH, might not.

If a fresh face is assigned to the case, a thorough initial
investigation of ICS case history, via officer compliance
check & review will yield plenty of information for the
~fresh~ minded R/O to develop a biased "Here we go again
attitude".

Been there, done that.

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"Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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Hopefully Taxman Hog will come along with current thoughts,
but I suggest you pray. In my day I'd have seized
everything I could find before God got the news.

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Here's the situation.

Client is fulfilling an agreement re 941, 940 and 1040 taxes
resulting from schedule c business in past years. After
all, 900$ per month ain't bad.

After this agreement became effective, he (we) reactivated
his previous corporation to take over the business.
Everything fine first quarter of 2004, but... well... he
got behind again. (bad boy!) But of course these 941
taxes are corporate in nature (1120S if that makes any
difference). We're talking about total of about 53,000$
worth, more or less for the last three quarters of 2004.

It looks then like he's on the last strike (2 out of three
already).

So far he (we) have just gotten bills from IRS and to each
one he sends in a thousand or two. What I'm concerned
about is that IF the same revenue officer happens to get the
case she will say to herself; WHAT? that fellow AGAIN? And
come down hard.

What would YOU do?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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