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Old 02-28-2005, 07:35 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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> > > Along these lines, can anyone comment on whether the
> > > following have to be attached:
> > > > > 1099's showing federal tax withheld:
> > > a. 1099-INT
> > > b. 1099-DIV
> > > c. SSA 1099 & RRB 1099
> > > d. 1099-G reporting unemployment and fed w/h
> > > e. W-2G with w/h
> > > > > Others I just can't think of but you all can :^)
> > > one example:
> > > > > f. 1099-Div reporting foreign tax credit.


> > On the IRS website, there is a Tax Tip 2004-64,
> > "Common Errors to Avoid":
> > > http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...108543,00.html
> > > The second to last bullet says, "Attach all Forms W-2,

> > 1099-R and others that reflect tax withheld to the front
> > of the return."


> Now if you attach a 9465 to the front of the return do you
> staple the w-2d etc. to that form since it is now the first
> page?


And if you attach a W-7 to this whole pile, then ...

ah, nevermind .... mumble....

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Old 02-28-2005, 06:57 PM
D. Stussy
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> > Along these lines, can anyone comment on whether the
> > following have to be attached:
> > 1099's showing federal tax withheld:
> > a. 1099-INT
> > b. 1099-DIV
> > c. SSA 1099 & RRB 1099
> > d. 1099-G reporting unemployment and fed w/h
> > e. W-2G with w/h
> > f. 1099-Div reporting foreign tax credit.


> From your list I'll vote for ONLY the W2G


Why not "D" also?

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Old 02-28-2005, 06:00 PM
Paul A Thomas
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"Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote

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> I reckon you've been to Doraville and actually viewed the
> sorting tables.


Yup. Pipeline tour a few years back. At the end of the
tour, there wasn't a gift shop, or free samples, like when
you tour other places. A real bummer.

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Old 02-28-2005, 05:40 PM
Phil Marti
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"Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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> I reckon you've been to Doraville and actually viewed the
> sorting tables.


I have! I have! They're not called sorting tables, they're
called "Tingle tables" after the eponymous Jim Tingle of the
Cincinnati Service Center, who designed them.

I once participated in the making of a training film showing
proper extraction and sorting. We brought in a sorter from
Cincinnati who was, shall we say, amply endowed. She wore a
bright purple sweater. We shot from overhead. It became
known as the "Purple [well, you get the idea] Movie."

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Clarksburg, MD

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Old 02-28-2005, 05:40 PM
Arthur L. Rubin
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Frederick Jorden wrote:

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> Make sure you staple any check to page 1 also. This makes a
> wonderful proof of date paid in the event the IRS mistakenly
> treats a timely payment as late.


Sounds like a good idea, even if it is in specific violation
of the instructions.

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Old 02-27-2005, 01:34 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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MTW wrote:

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> Also, by the way, when I'm elected "King," all payers will
> be required to use STANDARD FORMAT W-2s, 1099s, K-1s, etc.
> No "creativity" will be tolerated! <grin

let me know when you announce for election, and I'll be your
campaign manager. thank God we don't have W2-P forms
anymore, though.

And the new K-1's, aren't they standard by now?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 02-27-2005, 01:34 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Heather wrote:
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> Arthur Kamlet wrote:

> > Along these lines, can anyone comment on whether the
> > following have to be attached:
> > > 1099's showing federal tax withheld:

> > a. 1099-INT
> > b. 1099-DIV
> > c. SSA 1099 & RRB 1099
> > d. 1099-G reporting unemployment and fed w/h
> > e. W-2G with w/h
> > > Others I just can't think of but you all can :^)

> > one example:
> > > f. 1099-Div reporting foreign tax credit.


> On the IRS website, there is a Tax Tip 2004-64,
> "Common Errors to Avoid":
> http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...108543,00.html
> The second to last bullet says, "Attach all Forms W-2,
> 1099-R and others that reflect tax withheld to the front
> of the return."


Yes, Heather; GMTA.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 02-27-2005, 01:15 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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> > Along these lines, can anyone comment on whether the
> > following have to be attached:


> > 1099's showing federal tax withheld:
> > a. 1099-INT
> > b. 1099-DIV
> > c. SSA 1099 & RRB 1099
> > d. 1099-G reporting unemployment and fed w/h
> > e. W-2G with w/h
> > f. 1099-Div reporting foreign tax credit.


> From your list I'll vote for ONLY the W2G


I see this as relating to requirements for ERO to retain
in file, and that would include a,b,c,d and e.

not f.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 02-27-2005, 01:15 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Paul A Thomas wrote:

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> If it makes you feel better, staple them behind page one.
> In any event, the person that removes the staples to resort
> the return will place them where they are needed for
> processing.


You mean they actually remove the staples? Why then should
we not use a paperclip?

I reckon you've been to Doraville and actually viewed the
sorting tables.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 02-27-2005, 12:56 PM
Frederick Jorden
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Heather wrote:
- quote -

> Arthur Kamlet wrote:

> > Along these lines, can anyone comment on whether the
> > following have to be attached:
> > > 1099's showing federal tax withheld:

> > a. 1099-INT
> > b. 1099-DIV
> > c. SSA 1099 & RRB 1099
> > d. 1099-G reporting unemployment and fed w/h
> > e. W-2G with w/h
> > > Others I just can't think of but you all can :^)

> > one example:
> > > f. 1099-Div reporting foreign tax credit.


> On the IRS website, there is a Tax Tip 2004-64,
> "Common Errors to Avoid":
> http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...108543,00.html
> The second to last bullet says, "Attach all Forms W-2,
> 1099-R and others that reflect tax withheld to the front
> of the return."


Now if you attach a 9465 to the front of the return do you
staple the w-2d etc. to that form since it is now the first
page?

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7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247
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Old 02-27-2005, 12:56 PM
Frederick Jorden
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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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> Heather wrote:

> > I am filing a paper return for 2003 for refund. I have two
> > Forms 1099 that each show Federal Income Tax Withheld, so I
> > need to attach them to the front of my 1040. They are both
> > full 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of paper, not the half sheet forms
> > you sometimes see. So my question is how to properly
> > assemble my return, specifically how to attach these 1099s.
> > > -Should I staple them along with the W-2 in the left-hand

> > margin by folding the 1099s in thirds and laying them
> > between my W-2 and 1040?
> > > -Or should I leave them full-size-flat and staple them in

> > the upper left corner? If I leave them flat, they are full
> > sheets of paper and would be on top where the IRS won't be
> > able to see any of my 1040 return beneath them. That sounds
> > a little dangerous. Also, since my W-2 will be stapled on
> > the left-hand margin, I assume it would also be beneath the
> > 1099s, so they really would not be able to see the 1040 or
> > the W-2.
> > > I don't mean to make a big deal out of this, but on the

> > other hand, I don't want the IRS to start out their review
> > my return a little pissed off because I didn't submit it
> > correctly. I read the 1040 Instructions but can't find
> > anything more specific than "attach the 1099s to the front
> > of the return".


> Fold in thirds like a letter and then attach. Be sure the
> staple at left is exactly in the middle of the newly formed
> 1099, and one eighth of inch in.


Please translate this for folks who have gone metric.

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Old 02-27-2005, 12:56 PM
Frederick Jorden
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Phil Marti wrote:
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> "Heather" <HeatherRain[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I am filing a paper return for 2003 for refund. I have two
> > Forms 1099 that each show Federal Income Tax Withheld, so I
> > need to attach them to the front of my 1040. They are both
> > full 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of paper, not the half sheet forms
> > you sometimes see. So my question is how to properly
> > assemble my return, specifically how to attach these 1099s.


> Fold them letter style and staple them to the front of the
> return where instructed. It would be a nice touch if you
> could fold them so the withholding is visible, but I flunked
> oregami.


Make sure you staple any check to page 1 also. This makes a
wonderful proof of date paid in the event the IRS mistakenly
treats a timely payment as late.

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Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com
7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247
EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com
(804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211

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Old 02-27-2005, 12:56 PM
Frederick Jorden
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TaxSrv wrote:
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> "Heather" wrote:

> > I am filing a paper return for 2003 for refund. I have two
> > Forms 1099 that each show Federal Income Tax Withheld....
> > > They are both full 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of paper...
> > > Should I staple them along with the W-2 in the left-hand

> > margin by folding the 1099s in thirds...
> > > I don't want the IRS to start out their review

> > my return a little pissed off because I didn't submit it
> > correctly.


> I would fold 'em up as you suggest, ideally so tax W/H is
> exposed. The people who handle your return on the front end
> do no technical review, but only check a few things for
> smooth computer input by someone else. They don't survive
> in such jobs were they to get irritated over the paper they
> handle 8 hrs a day. Would you? :-)


Turnover insures inexperienced people in this position?

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Old 02-27-2005, 12:56 PM
Dick Adams
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Phil Marti wrote:
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> "Heather" <HeatherRain[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I am filing a paper return for 2003 for refund. I have two
> > Forms 1099 that each show Federal Income Tax Withheld, so I
> > need to attach them to the front of my 1040. They are both
> > full 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of paper, not the half sheet forms
> > you sometimes see. So my question is how to properly
> > assemble my return, specifically how to attach these 1099s.


> Fold them letter style and staple them to the front of the
> return where instructed. It would be a nice touch if you
> could fold them so the withholding is visible, but I flunked
> oregami.


Did you flunk or did the class just fold?

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Old 02-25-2005, 12:25 PM
Heather
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Arthur Kamlet wrote:

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> Along these lines, can anyone comment on whether the
> following have to be attached:
> 1099's showing federal tax withheld:
> a. 1099-INT
> b. 1099-DIV
> c. SSA 1099 & RRB 1099
> d. 1099-G reporting unemployment and fed w/h
> e. W-2G with w/h
> Others I just can't think of but you all can :^)
> one example:
> f. 1099-Div reporting foreign tax credit.


On the IRS website, there is a Tax Tip 2004-64,
"Common Errors to Avoid":

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...108543,00.html

The second to last bullet says, "Attach all Forms W-2,
1099-R and others that reflect tax withheld to the front
of the return."

Heather

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Old 02-25-2005, 12:13 PM
Don Priebe
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> Along these lines, can anyone comment on whether the
> following have to be attached:


> 1099's showing federal tax withheld:
> a. 1099-INT
> b. 1099-DIV
> c. SSA 1099 & RRB 1099
> d. 1099-G reporting unemployment and fed w/h
> e. W-2G with w/h
> f. 1099-Div reporting foreign tax credit.


From your list I'll vote for ONLY the W2G

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Old 02-25-2005, 12:11 PM
Phil Marti
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"Arthur Kamlet" <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote:

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> Make it easy for them by highlighting in yellow or circling
> the tax wihtheld amount in red ink, etc.


I'd recommend against using colors on the return. Things may
very well have changed over the years, but I remember when
colors had meaning, e.g., blue pencil for money, red for Code
& Edit, purple for error resolution.

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Old 02-25-2005, 07:27 AM
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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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> Be sure the staple at left is exactly in the middle of the
> newly formed 1099, and one eighth of inch in.


Too funny! Harlan, I'm laughing out loud - thanks for the
stress relief!

Heather

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Old 02-25-2005, 07:27 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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> I am filing a paper return for 2003 for refund. I have two
> Forms 1099 that each show Federal Income Tax Withheld, so I
> need to attach them to the front of my 1040. They are both
> full 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of paper, not the half sheet forms
> you sometimes see. So my question is how to properly
> assemble my return, specifically how to attach these 1099s.


Along these lines, can anyone comment on whether the
following have to be attached:

1099's showing federal tax withheld:

a. 1099-INT

b. 1099-DIV

c. SSA 1099 & RRB 1099

d. 1099-G reporting unemployment and fed w/h

e. W-2G with w/h

Others I just can't think of but you all can :^)
one example:

f. 1099-Div reporting foreign tax credit.

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Old 02-25-2005, 07:08 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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TaxSrv <n3_eu[at]comcast.net> wrote:
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> "Heather" wrote:

> > I am filing a paper return for 2003 for refund. I have two
> > Forms 1099 that each show Federal Income Tax Withheld....
> > > They are both full 8 1/2 x 11 sheets of paper...
> > > Should I staple them along with the W-2 in the left-hand

> > margin by folding the 1099s in thirds...
> > > I don't want the IRS to start out their review

> > my return a little pissed off because I didn't submit it
> > correctly.


> I would fold 'em up as you suggest, ideally so tax W/H is
> exposed.


Make it easy for them by highlighting in yellow or circling
the tax wihtheld amount in red ink, etc.

- quote -

> The people who handle your return on the front end
> do no technical review, but only check a few things for
> smooth computer input by someone else. They don't survive
> in such jobs were they to get irritated over the paper they
> handle 8 hrs a day. Would you? :-)


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