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Old 03-13-2005, 10:56 PM
D. Stussy
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David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:
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> > > > > > > This year, I paid the state of delaware interest on unpaid
> > > > > > > inheritance tax i owed on a investment property (vacation
> > > > > > > home) that I inherited years ago. I sold the property this
> > > > > > > year and the settlement attorney said this interest is an
> > > > > > > "investment interest expense" and deductible. Is this true?


> > > > > > No. And don't take tax advice from an attorney who doesn't
> > > > > > practice in that area.


> > > > > As an attorney I have to agree with you. I often hear of
> > > > > attorneys giving the most horrid advice that relate to tax
> > > > > matters when they have no legitimate reason for doing so.


> > > > This guy does practice in the area, and is a tax attorney
> > > > (Bar admission: U.S Tax Court). So I am really confused
> > > > now.


> > > The issue is quite simple. What is the interest related to?
> > > Is it related to the acquisition of the property or to an
> > > unpaid tax liability? Clearly the interest is on the tax
> > > liability. Therefore it is not deductible.


> > Maybe this is bogus but what about the logic that says part
> > of the acquisition of the property was the payment of
> > inheritance tax. A payment that had interest due. The
> > interest was not a penalty, but interest on an unpaid debt.


> Fine. Let me put it in simpler terms. You cannot deduct
> the interest on ANY unpaid tax liability. For ANY reason.
> See Sec. 162. It's against public policy.


The citation you are looking for is not IRC 162, but in TR 1.163-9T. It's too
bad that the Tax Court didn't buy my argument in 2003 that this regulation
(introduced December 1987) hasn't naturally expired [by 1998] ("temporary" does
not mean "forever").

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Old 03-08-2005, 09:56 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Default Re: interest on inheritance tax deficiency

David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:

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> Fine. Let me put it in simpler terms. You cannot deduct
> the interest on ANY unpaid tax liability. For ANY reason.
> See Sec. 162. It's against public policy.


Does that apply to an accrual basis corporate taxpayer who
got "a little behind" on his trust fund taxes?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
Mon 7 mar 2005

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Old 03-07-2005, 08:31 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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> > > > > > This year, I paid the state of delaware interest on unpaid
> > > > > > inheritance tax i owed on a investment property (vacation
> > > > > > home) that I inherited years ago. I sold the property this
> > > > > > year and the settlement attorney said this interest is an
> > > > > > "investment interest expense" and deductible. Is this true?


> > > > > No. And don't take tax advice from an attorney who doesn't
> > > > > practice in that area.


> > > > As an attorney I have to agree with you. I often hear of
> > > > attorneys giving the most horrid advice that relate to tax
> > > > matters when they have no legitimate reason for doing so.


> > > This guy does practice in the area, and is a tax attorney
> > > (Bar admission: U.S Tax Court). So I am really confused
> > > now.


> > The issue is quite simple. What is the interest related to?
> > Is it related to the acquisition of the property or to an
> > unpaid tax liability? Clearly the interest is on the tax
> > liability. Therefore it is not deductible.


> Maybe this is bogus but what about the logic that says part
> of the acquisition of the property was the payment of
> inheritance tax. A payment that had interest due. The
> interest was not a penalty, but interest on an unpaid debt.


Fine. Let me put it in simpler terms. You cannot deduct
the interest on ANY unpaid tax liability. For ANY reason.
See Sec. 162. It's against public policy.

--
David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 03-03-2005, 07:09 AM
gpatterson53@hotmail.com
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David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:
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> "gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com" <gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:
> > > "David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU" <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote:
> > > > "gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com" <gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com> wrote:


> > > > > This year, I paid the state of delaware interest on unpaid
> > > > > inheritance tax i owed on a investment property (vacation
> > > > > home) that I inherited years ago. I sold the property this
> > > > > year and the settlement attorney said this interest is an
> > > > > "investment interest expense" and deductible. Is this true?


> > > > No. And don't take tax advice from an attorney who doesn't
> > > > practice in that area.


> > > As an attorney I have to agree with you. I often hear of
> > > attorneys giving the most horrid advice that relate to tax
> > > matters when they have no legitimate reason for doing so.


> > This guy does practice in the area, and is a tax attorney
> > (Bar admission: U.S Tax Court). So I am really confused
> > now.


> The issue is quite simple. What is the interest related to?
> Is it related to the acquisition of the property or to an
> unpaid tax liability? Clearly the interest is on the tax
> liability. Therefore it is not deductible.


Maybe this is bogus but what about the logic that says part
of the acquisition of the property was the payment of
inheritance tax. A payment that had interest due. The
interest was not a penalty, but interest on an unpaid debt.

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Old 03-03-2005, 05:14 AM
Stuart A. Bronstein
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"gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com" <gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:
> > "David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU" <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote:


> > > No. And don't take tax advice from an attorney who doesn't
> > > practice in that area.


> > As an attorney I have to agree with you. I often hear of
> > attorneys giving the most horrid advice that relate to tax
> > matters when they have no legitimate reason for doing so.


> This guy does practice in the area, and is a tax attorney
> (Bar admission: U.S Tax Court). So I am really confused
> now.


Ask him if he has actually spent time to research the issue.
If he hasn't, talk to your tax preparer first, and perhaps
have the two of them talk.

By the way, my off-the-top-of-the-head reaction is that I
would agree with the attorney on the point. But I haven't
researched the issue, so my opinion is worth every penny you
paid.

Stu

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Old 02-28-2005, 06:38 PM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com" <gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:
> > "David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU" <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote:
> > > "gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com" <gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com> wrote:


> > > > This year, I paid the state of delaware interest on unpaid
> > > > inheritance tax i owed on a investment property (vacation
> > > > home) that I inherited years ago. I sold the property this
> > > > year and the settlement attorney said this interest is an
> > > > "investment interest expense" and deductible. Is this true?


> > > No. And don't take tax advice from an attorney who doesn't
> > > practice in that area.


> > As an attorney I have to agree with you. I often hear of
> > attorneys giving the most horrid advice that relate to tax
> > matters when they have no legitimate reason for doing so.


> This guy does practice in the area, and is a tax attorney
> (Bar admission: U.S Tax Court). So I am really confused
> now.


The issue is quite simple. What is the interest related to?
Is it related to the acquisition of the property or to an
unpaid tax liability? Clearly the interest is on the tax
liability. Therefore it is not deductible.

--
David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 02-27-2005, 01:53 PM
gpatterson53@hotmail.com
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Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:
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> "David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU" <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote:
> > "gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com" <gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com> wrote:


> > > This year, I paid the state of delaware interest on unpaid
> > > inheritance tax i owed on a investment property (vacation
> > > home) that I inherited years ago. I sold the property this
> > > year and the settlement attorney said this interest is an
> > > "investment interest expense" and deductable. Is this true?


> > No. And don't take tax advice from an attorney who doesn't
> > practice in that area.


> As an attorney I have to agree with you. I often hear of
> attorneys giving the most horrid advice that relate to tax
> matters when they have no legitimate reason for doing so.


This guy does practice in the area, and is a tax attorney
(Bar admission: U.S Tax Court). So I am really confused
now.

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Old 02-25-2005, 01:29 AM
Stuart A. Bronstein
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"David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU" <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote:
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> "gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com" <gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

> > This year, I paid the state of delaware interest on unpaid
> > inheritance tax i owed on a investment property (vacation
> > home) that I inherited years ago. I sold the property this
> > year and the settlement attorney said this interest is an
> > "investment interest expense" and deductable. Is this true?


> No. And don't take tax advice from an attorney who doesn't
> practice in that area.


As an attorney I have to agree with you. I often hear of
attorneys giving the most horrid advice that relate to tax
matters when they have no legitimate reason for doing so.

Stu

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Old 02-24-2005, 09:12 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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"gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com" <gpatterson53[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> This year, I paid the state of delaware interest on unpaid
> inheritance tax i owed on a investment property (vacation
> home) that I inherited years ago. I sold the property this
> year and the settlement attorney said this interest is an
> "investment interest expense" and deductable. Is this true?


No. And don't take tax advice from an attorney who doesn't
practice in that area.

--
David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 02-23-2005, 05:12 AM
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This year, I paid the state of delaware interest on unpaid
inheritance tax i owed on a investment property (vacation
home) that I inherited years ago. I sold the property this
year and the settlement attorney said this interest is an
"investment interest expense" and deductable. Is this true?

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