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| "Phoebe Roberts, EA" <phoebe[at]cottagesoft.com> wrote: - quote - > David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote:
I don't consider to be a SUTA specific issue. The fact is> > I'll just point out that in fact even though fed tax law > > allows for common paymasters, most states do NOT. > Assuming you only have a single state's worth of payroll > under both the common paymaster and multiple employer > scenarios, is there any state issue beyond SUTA? > The current "goal" of the SUTA audits going around here > lately is "we're reclassing all of your S-corp distributions > to SUTA-taxable wages, even though you're over the SUTA cap, > because it makes us look better if we have a high total wage > base." > Thanks for the heads-up; we hadn't considered SUTA issues > for our one common paymaster guy. His issue is the employer > FICA, though, since he's over the FICA max in both entities. that most states simply don't allow it, so that in fact you might run into a FICA issue. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU wrote: - quote - > I'll just point out that in fact even though fed tax law
Assuming you only have a single state's worth of payroll> allows for common paymasters, most states do NOT. under both the common paymaster and multiple employer scenarios, is there any state issue beyond SUTA? The current "goal" of the SUTA audits going around here lately is "we're reclassing all of your S-corp distributions to SUTA-taxable wages, even though you're over the SUTA cap, because it makes us look better if we have a high total wage base." Thanks for the heads-up; we hadn't considered SUTA issues for our one common paymaster guy. His issue is the employer FICA, though, since he's over the FICA max in both entities. Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Phoebe Roberts, EA" <phoebe[at]cottagesoft.com> wrote: - quote - > Craig wrote:
I'll just point out that in fact even though fed tax law> > What is the proper procedure for allocating owner's salary > > and contract labor between 2 commonly owned (only one > > shareholder) S corps when they are paid out of one > > corporation but should have been split between the two? > For salaries, you might look at the common paymaster rules. > Contract labor I'd handle with a management fee. allows for common paymasters, most states do NOT. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Craig wrote: - quote - > What is the proper procedure for allocating owner's salary
For salaries, you might look at the common paymaster rules.> and contract labor between 2 commonly owned (only one > shareholder) S corps when they are paid out of one > corporation but should have been split between the two? Contract labor I'd handle with a management fee. Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Craig" <jcstone1[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > What is the proper procedure for allocating owner's salary
I'd have Company A (the one paying the salary) charge> and contract labor between 2 commonly owned (only one > shareholder) S corps when they are paid out of one > corporation but should have been split between the two? Each > corporation has about $500,000 in income, owner's salary is > $50,000 (no other salaries paid) and $600,000 total in > contract labor. Company B a management fee covering its share of salary, payroll taxes, and related expenses. -- Tom Healy, CPA Boulder, CO Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Craig" <jcstone1[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > What is the proper procedure for allocating owner's salary
A simple method is to have the company paying the wages> and contract labor between 2 commonly owned (only one > shareholder) S corps when they are paid out of one > corporation but should have been split between the two? Each > corporation has about $500,000 in income, owner's salary is > $50,000 (no other salaries paid) and $600,000 total in > contract labor. charge the other compay a management fee. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Craig" <jcstone1[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > What is the proper procedure for allocating owner's salary
Frankly, I think you might need a bit of professional help.> and contract labor between 2 commonly owned (only one > shareholder) S corps when they are paid out of one > corporation but should have been split between the two? Each > corporation has about $500,000 in income, owner's salary is > $50,000 (no other salaries paid) and $600,000 total in > contract labor. You may own two corporations, but you seem to be comingling the two. There are both tax reasons and legal reasons not to do that. The procedure might come down to why you paid your salary out of one of the companies, and not have each company pay some? Does one have income and not the other? Any transfers of money between the corporations should be recorded as such. People have written books on how to do that. Likewise, your contract laborers really should have been paid out of the accounts of the companies that they generated income for. For the numbers you are talking about, you really need to have some sort of accountant work this all out for you. Anything they might charge you will save you thousands (and a lot of headaches) in the long run. You are beyond a do-it-yourself project here. Another issue you might need to worry about: Are your contract labor people really not employees? My apologies if you are renting them from an employment agency or something. But if you are clasifying them as contractors, and they really are employees, the IRS could come after you for all the payroll taxes you *should* have been withholding. Get some help -- it could save you tens of thousands of dollars later. Bryan -- Bryan Kellar, EA Oregon Tax Help, Inc. Portland, Oregon www.oregontaxhelp.com www.canadatax.org << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| What is the proper procedure for allocating owner's salary and contract labor between 2 commonly owned (only one shareholder) S corps when they are paid out of one corporation but should have been split between the two? Each corporation has about $500,000 in income, owner's salary is $50,000 (no other salaries paid) and $600,000 total in contract labor. Thanks << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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