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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > > And then you put on a new, better than the old one, sure to
Or perhaps the ruof could be allocated entirely to the> > increase useful life, roof. And depreciate it over ... > Hey, that's GREAT, Don!. > Now let's see, would you prorate the depreciation > according to square footage on all floors, or... half and > half? Or, if owner lives on second floor (with ground floor > schedule c and first floor schedule e) thirds? top floor, on the grounds that each story protects the one below? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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But the economic value of the first floor greater than the> > > where the ground floor (on schedule c) is depreciated over > > > 39 years, while the floor(s) above might be subject to 27.5 > > > years. Somehow this borders on the ironic, even though > > > that's what the code says. > > And then you put on a new, better than the old one, sure to > > increase useful life, roof. And depreciate it over ... > Hey, that's GREAT, Don!. > Now let's see, would you prorate the depreciation > according to square footage on all floors, or... half and > half? Or, if owner lives on second floor (with ground floor > schedule c and first floor schedule e) thirds? > Glad most of our structures in the South are on one level. others. Allocations are always fun. How much rent will the first floor generate in comparison to the second or third. A experienced realtor could give a more appropriate value allocation. -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > Arthur Kamlet wrote:
All floors are equal, but some are more equal.> > > (snipped...) > > > > The main level would be depreciated over 39 years in any > > > > event. > > > This brings up an interesting point. Here's a property > > > where the ground floor (on schedule c) is depreciated over > > > 39 years, while the floor(s) above might be subject to 27.5 > > > years. Somehow this borders on the ironic, even though > > > that's what the code says. > > Why is this any different than the guy who rents out part of > > his house and files a Sch E, and also runs a Sch C business > > and claims Home office expense? > Well it's not "different", it's just ironic that parts of > the same structure should have a different life. Seems that > the politically correct people might get up in arms and > demand that all floors be treated equally. After all, we > HAVE to be FAIR! (*grin -- Frederick E. Jorden http://Tax-Accounting-Payroll.com 7825 Midlothian Tpk - 207 Richmond, VA 23235-5247 EMAIL knowtax[at]bigfoot.com (804) 320-6210 FAX (804) 320-6211 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > This brings up an interesting point. Here's a property
Hey, that's GREAT, Don!.> > where the ground floor (on schedule c) is depreciated over > > 39 years, while the floor(s) above might be subject to 27.5 > > years. Somehow this borders on the ironic, even though > > that's what the code says. > And then you put on a new, better than the old one, sure to > increase useful life, roof. And depreciate it over ... Now let's see, would you prorate the depreciation according to square footage on all floors, or... half and half? Or, if owner lives on second floor (with ground floor schedule c and first floor schedule e) thirds? Glad most of our structures in the South are on one level. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur Kamlet wrote: - quote - > > (snipped...)
Well it's not "different", it's just ironic that parts of> > > The main level would be depreciated over 39 years in any > > > event. > > This brings up an interesting point. Here's a property > > where the ground floor (on schedule c) is depreciated over > > 39 years, while the floor(s) above might be subject to 27.5 > > years. Somehow this borders on the ironic, even though > > that's what the code says. > Why is this any different than the guy who rents out part of > his house and files a Sch E, and also runs a Sch C business > and claims Home office expense? the same structure should have a different life. Seems that the politically correct people might get up in arms and demand that all floors be treated equally. After all, we HAVE to be FAIR! (*grin ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > This brings up an interesting point. Here's a property
And then you put on a new, better than the old one, sure to> where the ground floor (on schedule c) is depreciated over > 39 years, while the floor(s) above might be subject to 27.5 > years. Somehow this borders on the ironic, even though > that's what the code says. increase useful life, roof. And depreciate it over ... -- Don EA in Upstate NY << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > (snipped...)
Why is this any different than the guy who rents out part of> > The main level would be depreciated over 39 years in any > > event. > This brings up an interesting point. Here's a property > where the ground floor (on schedule c) is depreciated over > 39 years, while the floor(s) above might be subject to 27.5 > years. Somehow this borders on the ironic, even though > that's what the code says. his house and files a Sch E, and also runs a Sch C business and claims Home office expense? __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Thomas Healy wrote: (snipped...) - quote - > The main level would be depreciated over 39 years in any
This brings up an interesting point. Here's a property> event. where the ground floor (on schedule c) is depreciated over 39 years, while the floor(s) above might be subject to 27.5 years. Somehow this borders on the ironic, even though that's what the code says. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA thu 24 Feb 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Nanette <taxingmatters[at]zoominternet.net> wrote: - quote - > Client bought a building to house their sole proprietor
Sure, create distinct assets with different class lives and> business. The building they bought has 3 rental units > upstairs, with their business being on the main level. > Should I file a schedule C, and also a schedule E, > separating the rental/business use. Should I separate the > cost among the two and depreciate separately. Sounds > logical, however my concern is when the building or business > is sold, would I simply divide the sales price among the > two, recapture depreciation and calculate gain or loss. > Would this send up any red flags with IRS, due to the fact > that the entire sales price is on two seperate schedules? > Would it be acceptable to include the income on the schedule > C, and take all the deductions there. I just want to do it > properly from the beginning to as not to have any problems > in the future. for different types of activities. You would track your rental on schedule E and business on Sch C. Be sure to allocate basis and expenses correctly. Include the land as at least one distinct asset if not two. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Nanette wrote: - quote - > Client bought a building to house their sole proprietor
You're right on target there, Nanette, until you think about> business. The building they bought has 3 rental units > upstairs, with their business being on the main level. > Should I file a schedule C, and also a schedule E, > separating the rental/business use. Should I separate the > cost among the two and depreciate separately. Sounds > logical, however my concern is when the building or business > is sold, would I simply divide the sales price among the > two, recapture depreciation and calculate gain or loss. > Would this send up any red flags with IRS, due to the fact > that the entire sales price is on two seperate schedules? > Would it be acceptable to include the income on the schedule > C, and take all the deductions there. I just want to do it > properly from the beginning to as not to have any problems > in the future. taking everything on a schedule c. Secret of success in accounting is..... pro rate and allocate. No red flags to be raised. You refer to your client as "they", but then you're talking about a schedule c (proprietor). I take it your client is married couple with just one of them owning THE business. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Wed 23 Feb 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Nanette" <taxingmatters[at]zoominternet.net> wrote: - quote - > Client bought a building to house their sole proprietor
This depends on whether the rental activity is significant> business. The building they bought has 3 rental units > upstairs, with their business being on the main level. > Should I file a schedule C, and also a schedule E, > separating the rental/business use. Should I separate the > cost among the two and depreciate separately. Sounds > logical, however my concern is when the building or business > is sold, would I simply divide the sales price among the > two, recapture depreciation and calculate gain or loss. > Would this send up any red flags with IRS, due to the fact > that the entire sales price is on two seperate schedules? > Would it be acceptable to include the income on the schedule > C, and take all the deductions there. I just want to do it > properly from the beginning to as not to have any problems > in the future. compared to the Schedule C business. I suspect with 3 rental units, you need to segregate the cost between the rental units and the business portion. You need to compare the facts against the passive loss rules. The rental property will be on Schedule E; if they are residential units, depreciate over 27.5 years, otherwise 39 years. The main level would be depreciated over 39 years in any event. You would also need to allocate interest expense and property tax between the two activities as well -- Tom Healy, CPA Boulder, CO Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Client bought a building to house their sole proprietor business. The building they bought has 3 rental units upstairs, with their business being on the main level. Should I file a schedule C, and also a schedule E, separating the rental/business use. Should I separate the cost among the two and depreciate separately. Sounds logical, however my concern is when the building or business is sold, would I simply divide the sales price among the two, recapture depreciation and calculate gain or loss. Would this send up any red flags with IRS, due to the fact that the entire sales price is on two seperate schedules? Would it be acceptable to include the income on the schedule C, and take all the deductions there. I just want to do it properly from the beginning to as not to have any problems in the future. Thanks for your advice! Nanette << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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