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Old 03-03-2005, 05:52 AM
MTW
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Mike L wrote:

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> Sort of like a stock option?

Depends. Stock options issued to employees are subject to
their own peculiar rules. On the other hand, options traded
on the exchange (puts, calls, etc.) are capital assets.

Whether a "place in line" rises to the level of being an
"option to purchase" would be a "facts and circumstances"
question.

MTW

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Old 02-28-2005, 07:16 PM
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MTW wrote:
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> Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:

> > He "owned" the place in line. What's wrong with that?


> As I understand it, the question would come down to whether
> he owned an "equitable interest" in some form of "property,"
> or whether he merely owned a "right to receive" something in
> the future. The latter seems to more closely fit this
> situation (not qualifying as a "capital asset" for tax
> purposes).


Sort of like a stock option?

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Old 02-28-2005, 07:16 PM
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MTW wrote:
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> Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:
> > He "owned" the place in line. What's wrong with that?


> As I understand it, the question would come down to whether
> he owned an "equitable interest" in some form of "property,"
> or whether he merely owned a "right to receive" something in
> the future. The latter seems to more closely fit this
> situation (not qualifying as a "capital asset" for tax
> purposes).


That's my thought - the place in line is not an asset in
itself.

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Old 02-24-2005, 07:36 AM
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Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:

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> He "owned" the place in line. What's wrong with that?

As I understand it, the question would come down to whether
he owned an "equitable interest" in some form of "property,"
or whether he merely owned a "right to receive" something in
the future. The latter seems to more closely fit this
situation (not qualifying as a "capital asset" for tax
purposes).

MTW

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Old 02-23-2005, 03:36 AM
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"D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
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> johnmolinda[at]yahoo.com wrote:

> > I'm a little stumped on the classification for the type of
> > income this would be (capital or ordinary). I sold a spot in
> > line for $20,000 at a housing developers sales lot. There
> > were 400 people in line and 10 houses available. I intented
> > to buy a house for investment, but I figured it would be
> > easier to make $ selling the spot in line. My expenses were
> > $0 my net profit was $20,000. I've never done this before
> > it's not my ordinary line of work obviously. So would this
> > be a capital gain or ordinary income? Does it even matter
> > since short term cap gains are the same tax rate as ordinary
> > income?


> Ordinary income. If it were a capital gain, then what did
> you "own?" :-)


He "owned" the place in line. What's wrong with that?

Stu

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Old 02-21-2005, 09:01 AM
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johnmolinda[at]yahoo.com wrote:

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> I'm a little stumped on the classification for the type of
> income this would be (capital or ordinary). I sold a spot in
> line for $20,000 at a housing developers sales lot. There
> were 400 people in line and 10 houses available. I intented
> to buy a house for investment, but I figured it would be
> easier to make $ selling the spot in line. My expenses were
> $0 my net profit was $20,000. I've never done this before
> it's not my ordinary line of work obviously. So would this
> be a capital gain or ordinary income? Does it even matter
> since short term cap gains are the same tax rate as ordinary
> income?


Ordinary income. If it were a capital gain, then what did
you "own?" :-)

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Old 02-18-2005, 11:33 AM
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johnmolinda[at]yahoo.com wrote:

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> So would this
> be a capital gain or ordinary income? Does it even matter
> since short term cap gains are the same tax rate as ordinary
> income?


It could make a difference if you had other capital losses
to offset.

But, I doubt this item would rise to the definition of
"capital asset." It sounds more like an "expectancy" to me,
and that implies "ordinary" income.

MTW

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Old 02-18-2005, 11:14 AM
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<johnmolinda[at]yahoo.com> wrote

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> I'm a little stumped on the classification for the type of
> income this would be (capital or ordinary). I sold a spot in
> line for $20,000 at a housing developers sales lot. There
> were 400 people in line and 10 houses available. I intented
> to buy a house for investment, but I figured it would be
> easier to make $ selling the spot in line. My expenses were
> $0 my net profit was $20,000. I've never done this before
> it's not my ordinary line of work obviously. So would this
> be a capital gain or ordinary income? Does it even matter
> since short term cap gains are the same tax rate as ordinary
> income?


Sounds like "Other Income", which is ordinary.

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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia
taxman at negia.net

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Old 02-17-2005, 12:14 AM
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I'm a little stumped on the classification for the type of
income this would be (capital or ordinary). I sold a spot in
line for $20,000 at a housing developers sales lot. There
were 400 people in line and 10 houses available. I intented
to buy a house for investment, but I figured it would be
easier to make $ selling the spot in line. My expenses were
$0 my net profit was $20,000. I've never done this before
it's not my ordinary line of work obviously. So would this
be a capital gain or ordinary income? Does it even matter
since short term cap gains are the same tax rate as ordinary
income?

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