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| Thanks for your feedback Tom. We ended up specially allocating gross revenue to the partner until his capital account reached zero. Unfortunately, this created ordinary income to the partner. But, this seems appropriate since his deductions last year offset his other ordinary income. The other members now aren't faced with having to absorb this guy's negative capital account and get the benefit of additional allocated losses in 2004. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mike" <brainrain42hike[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Looking for a sanity check here. Any other ideas appreciated.
He needs to look at Form 6198 and Pub 925. When basis drops> Year 1: > LLC has 4 members each with negative capital accounts from > losses allocated in the prior year. LLC has sufficient > liabilities for partners to have enough basis to deduct the > losses on their individual returns. > Year 2: > One of the members moves on but retains a 3% ownership > interest. He is no longer allocated profits or losses. He > will receive an interest in a successor company if and when > the LLC is acquired, goes public, or other. > Question: > The member's share of liabilities is now zero and his > capital account is negative. The LLC has no capital account > restoration provision. On the surface, I'm thinking the tax > consequences are: > * The member's reduction in share of liabilities is an > effective distribution that reduces his tax basis (below > zero until the next bullet) > * For the prior year's allocations to have substantial > economic effect, this partner, since he will NEVER be > allocated income again in the future, must be allocated > enough income via qualified income offset in year 2 to > restore his capital account to zero. below zero and he had prior year losses, he has income recapture that is reported on Line 21 of the Form 1040. The LLC does not have to distribute any income to him. -- Tom Healy, CPA Boulder, CO Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Looking for a sanity check here. Any other ideas appreciated. Year 1: LLC has 4 members each with negative capital accounts from losses allocated in the prior year. LLC has sufficient liabilities for partners to have enough basis to deduct the losses on their individual returns. Year 2: One of the members moves on but retains a 3% ownership interest. He is no longer allocated profits or losses. He will receive an interest in a successor company if and when the LLC is acquired, goes public, or other. Question: The member's share of liabilities is now zero and his capital account is negative. The LLC has no capital account restoration provision. On the surface, I'm thinking the tax consequences are: * The member's reduction in share of liabilities is an effective distribution that reduces his tax basis (below zero until the next bullet) * For the prior year's allocations to have substantial economic effect, this partner, since he will NEVER be allocated income again in the future, must be allocated enough income via qualified income offset in year 2 to restore his capital account to zero. Other Options: Any help appreciated?? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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