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| ed wrote: - quote - > You should determine how much to pay for each installment on
Victor, rich, and ed,> the Annualized Income Method (see form 2210 Schedule AI and > also Publication 505 for greater detail). This is the only > way you will absolutely avoid a penalty because trying to > estimate the full year is a lost cause. You do not have to > pay equal installments > The process is really very simple, but computing your > taxable income for each tax period can be difficult. There > are 2210 tax calculators available to download from the > web, but the big tax programs don't do it on the AI method Thanks for that insight. I see Form 2210 and its Schedule A1, and how I can use it as a guide to figure out my quarterlies. No other way to do this, as I might not sell a share, or I might unload a bunch, all in the shadow of a high tax precedent last year. I think I'm clear on this now. Thanks again. Paul -- Given address is checked only infrequently. Please reply to group. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| You should determine how much to pay for each installment on the Annualized Income Method (see form 2210 Schedule AI and also Publication 505 for greater detail). This is the only way you will absolutely avoid a penalty because trying to estimate the full year is a lost cause. You do not have to pay equal installments The process is really very simple, but computing your taxable income for each tax period can be difficult. There are 2210 tax calculators available to download from the web, but the big tax programs don't do it on the AI method ed << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A good way to fill out the estimated tax penalty each quarter, then pay enough to avoid the penalty. It is forms 2210 and 2210AI in most low end computer tax programs. You have the choice of the equal payments method or the annualize-income-so-far method. The second handles the issue of unpredictable income. However, it may result in higher early payments if more of your income is in the first five months of the year. So you may compute both ways the first methods the first quarter, then choose either (and continue that for the rest of the year). In the 2210 forms you are roughly computing your income tax five times a year- four times for estimates and then the actual. One caveat is that the brackets and deductions for 2005 are not finalized until October. So you use a one year old form/program for the calculation. Generally this safe, because most year-to-year changes are for inflation increases, having you pay slightly more than necessary. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Paul B." <pb_public[at]operamail.com> wrote: - quote - > Last year I had much higher than usual investment income.
I believe you can pay estimated taxes in unequal amounts> This year I have no way of knowing how things will go. > There's a good possibility that I will see very little > realized capital gains, but then if there's a buy-out or > merger, there could be very heavy realized capital gains. > So here's my problem: because of last year's high income, > I'm set up for potential penalties if I underestimate > estimated tax. Naturally I'd like to keep the estimated tax > payments as low as possible. Can I low-ball the estimates, > and then quickly upgrade them later on if I start seeing > income, without penalty? Or will the IRS want four equal > payments? It's hard to estimate taxes when one hasn't a clue > what's going to be happening. without penalty _if_ you can document your income for each of the estimated tax periods. There is a form for doing this - just not sure where right now. Probably the same form where the penalty is calculated. Before I organized as a C Corp and was therefore paying estimated taxes on my consulting income I had a year in which I paid more than was due, but still owed a penalty because the payments were unequal - too small at the start of the year. The penalty was so small I didn't want to bother to document my income for each estimated tax period. -- Vic Roberts Replace xxx with vdr in e-mail address. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Last year I had much higher than usual investment income. This year I have no way of knowing how things will go. There's a good possibility that I will see very little realized capital gains, but then if there's a buy-out or merger, there could be very heavy realized capital gains. So here's my problem: because of last year's high income, I'm set up for potential penalties if I underestimate estimated tax. Naturally I'd like to keep the estimated tax payments as low as possible. Can I low-ball the estimates, and then quickly upgrade them later on if I start seeing income, without penalty? Or will the IRS want four equal payments? It's hard to estimate taxes when one hasn't a clue what's going to be happening. Thanks, Paul -- Given address is checked only infrequently. Please reply to group. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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