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| I wrote this the other day , but do not see it posted. So if my understanding is correct, the AMT NOL is basically the NOL (adjusted for AMT) carried forward or back. By entering it on Form 6251 Line 27 it offsets any NOL entered on Line 10. In effect you are not taxed by AMT on these carryover/carryback NOLs. I hope I get it now. Is this correct? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| So if my understanding is correct, the AMT NOL is basically the NOL (adjusted for AMT) carried forward from previous years. By entering it on Form 6251 Line 27 it offsets any NOL entered on Line 10. In effect you are not taxed by AMT on these carryover NOLs. I hope I get it now. Is this correct? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "mel" <maris7[at]optonline.net> wrote: - quote - > The NOL that was added for AMT was the same amount that was
You compute AMT NOL as you would the regular NOL. You enter> carried forward to the 1040 for 2003. Taxpayer had very > little income in prior years and the AMT was not generated. > I have very little experience with NOLs, especially as they > relate to the AMT. > Would there be a difference with NOL and AMT NOL in this > case, AND if so where and when should it be entered? the AMT NOL on Form 6251 on the line that asks for the AMT NOL. I don't know if there will be a difference between the two or not. My gut says yes, and probably to a lesser AMT NOL, but you should be able to calculate it (and it helps if your software does it for you). -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| The NOL that was added for AMT was the same amount that was carried forward to the 1040 for 2003. Taxpayer had very little income in prior years and the AMT was not generated. I have very little experience with NOLs, especially as they relate to the AMT. Would there be a difference with NOL and AMT NOL in this case, AND if so where and when should it be entered? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "mel" <maris7[at]optonline.net> wrote: - quote - > In 2003 Client had a $40,000 carryforward NOL. Other income
Did you enter his AMT NOL??? You knew there was one,> items totaled about $74,000. So his AGI was about $34,000. > His regular tax was about $2,000, BUT the AMT kicked in by > adding back his NOL. Thus he lost the advantage of most of > the the NOL and there was an additional AMT tax of $6,000. > Since the NOL wound up becoming AMT taxable income, is there > any way he can use the part of the $40,000 NOL that was > taxed by AMT? The 8801 indicates no carry forward from 2003 > to 2004. It seems wrong that the NOL wound up being taxed > and the tax advantage was lost. right??? -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| In 2003 Client had a $40,000 carryforward NOL. Other income items totaled about $74,000. So his AGI was about $34,000. His regular tax was about $2,000, BUT the AMT kicked in by adding back his NOL. Thus he lost the advantage of most of the the NOL and there was an additional AMT tax of $6,000. Since the NOL wound up becoming AMT taxable income, is there any way he can use the part of the $40,000 NOL that was taxed by AMT? The 8801 indicates no carry forward from 2003 to 2004. It seems wrong that the NOL wound up being taxed and the tax advantage was lost. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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