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| Marie L. Murrell, wrote: - quote - > On one particular well, Son struck an "agreement" with his
LOE and IDC don't generally give rise to any assets, though,> Father-In-Law (Father) whereby Father would provide 50% of > the Son's expenses for drilling, completing and operating. > In return, Father would receive a 50% interest in the > referenced assets received by the Son. and you don't really get any equipment, even if the JIBs say "equipment." I assume that what's really happening is that F is getting a half interest in current year gross income, in exchange for paying half the current year expenses, but isn't getting any ownership in the underlying working interest. - quote - > How does Son report (to the IRS) the checks he has written
If the JIBs are never expected to exceed the gross income,> Father for the 1/2 net revenues? Son takes the revenues he > receives, subtracts the expenses he was billed for to arrive > at a net revenue. He then forwards Father a check for 1/2 > this net revenue. so that F will likely never have any out of pocket expenses, I'm inclined to say S is making a gift of cash. You could take the position that F is buying an ORRI (see below), but there's likely to be a bargain element to that sale - no one sells a one-year cash stream at much of a discount. If F is anticipated to and does have cash out of pocket, I'd be inclined to say that what F is getting is an overriding royalty interest, reportable in Box 2 of a 1099-Misc. He has basis in the ORRI to the extent of his share of JIBs paid. S deducts the royalties (F's share of the gross income) paid on his Schedule C, and reports a partial sale of his working interest (which presumably has some basis) on Schedule D. You might need an O&G specialist (does he have any geologist buddies?) to determine how much of the value of his working interest would be allocable to a one-year ORRI. - quote - > Any help will be appreciated.
I think you need more facts about the nature (and intendedconsequences) of the transaction. Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I have a client (we will call him Son) that became a working interest (small percent) owner in several oil and gas properties and started his own business with such. On one particular well, Son struck an "agreement" with his Father-In-Law (Father) whereby Father would provide 50% of the Son's expenses for drilling, completing and operating. In return, Father would receive a 50% interest in the referenced assets received by the Son. The Father never received any type of ownership, and the son looks at him as an investor. How does Son report (to the IRS) the checks he has written Father for the 1/2 net revenues? Son takes the revenues he receives, subtracts the expenses he was billed for to arrive at a net revenue. He then forwards Father a check for 1/2 this net revenue. At first I thought a 1099 MISC for non employee compensation, but later thought not because Father has no ownership interest. Would this be considered a partnership requiring a 1065? This seems incorrect also, as the Son's interest would be a working interest requiring Self employment taxes be paid. However, I am unsure if Father would be subject to Self Employment taxes. Any help will be appreciated. Marie L. Murrell << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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