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| SFCanadian wrote: - quote - > I think you've hit on it. My RRSP trustee (a Canadian bank)
No. Interest and dividend income has its source at the> has locked up my account for as long as I'm in the US. They > said that it had something to do with the state I was in and > if I altered my asset mix, it would be considered a sale of > assets and I would have to pay for any gains (capital, > etc.). > So from what you seem to be saying: Keep my RRSP as it is > until I retire and then I'll be able to withdraw from my > account without tax. My only last question is: When I do > retire, if I live in California, while the withdrawal won't > be taxable, will the earnings that I accumulated over all > those years be taxable? residence of the owner of the intangibles that generate it. If you were a nonresident of California when the income was earned, it won't be subject to California tax when you withdraw it, even if you are a CA resident at that time. Of course from the time you become a CA resident, the earnings of the fund will be subject to CA tax as they accrue. Just think of it as a passbook savings account that you created, and which accrued interest income, while you were a nonresident of California. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Katie, I think you've hit on it. My RRSP trustee (a Canadian bank) has locked up my account for as long as I'm in the US. They said that it had something to do with the state I was in and if I altered my asset mix, it would be considered a sale of assets and I would have to pay for any gains (capital, etc.). So from what you seem to be saying: Keep my RRSP as it is until I retire and then I'll be able to withdraw from my account without tax. My only last question is: When I do retire, if I live in California, while the withdrawal won't be taxable, will the earnings that I accumulated over all those years be taxable? Thanks a ton, Jamie << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| elgie[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > I started my career in Canada and then after 4 years moved
I would suggest you read notices 2003-75, 2003-57, 2003-25> to the United States. I've now spent 5 years here, am > married to an American and will not likely be moving back to > Canada -- except, possibly, for summers in a summer vacation > home. > As it turns out, approximately 20% of my overall retirement > portfolio is currently in RRSPs. I'm actually quite happy > to have Cdn $ denominated assets right now in my retirement > account, but I really don't like what's happened to my asset > mix and I understand that I'm not allowed to change it. > Moreover, I have no clue what I'll actually be able to do > when I retire with my Cdn RRSPs in the US. > Would anyone out there have wise words of advice -- a > strategy, in other words -- regarding RRSPs for American > residents? and Rev. Proc. 2002-23. All available at the IRS web site. I haven't read 2003-57 and 2003-25 but they are cited by CCH as mentioning Rev. Proc. 2002-23. Good luck and welcome to the US. -- Drew Edmundson << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| jelgie[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > I started my career in Canada and then after 4 years moved
Note that the answer to your question may be different for> to the United States. I've now spent 5 years here, am > married to an American and will not likely be moving back to > Canada -- except, possibly, for summers in a summer vacation > home. > As it turns out, approximately 20% of my overall retirement > portfolio is currently in RRSPs. I'm actually quite happy > to have Cdn $ denominated assets right now in my retirement > account, but I really don't like what's happened to my asset > mix and I understand that I'm not allowed to change it. > Moreover, I have no clue what I'll actually be able to do > when I retire with my Cdn RRSPs in the US. state than for federal income tax purposes. There is a federal income tax treaty with Canada that allows you to defer taxation of the earnings on the RRSP until withdrawal. States are not bound by such treaties. Some states may follow the federal treatment while others do not. California, for example, treats the RRSP just like any other savings account held in a foreign country. As a California resident you would be taxable on the earnings as they accumulate. Withdrawals would not be subject to California income tax. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| <jelgie[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I started my career in Canada and then after 4 years moved
The US recognizes the RRSP as a foreign retirement trust.> to the United States. I've now spent 5 years here, am > married to an American and will not likely be moving back to > Canada -- except, possibly, for summers in a summer vacation > home. > As it turns out, approximately 20% of my overall retirement > portfolio is currently in RRSPs. I'm actually quite happy > to have Cdn $ denominated assets right now in my retirement > account, but I really don't like what's happened to my asset > mix and I understand that I'm not allowed to change it. > Moreover, I have no clue what I'll actually be able to do > when I retire with my Cdn RRSPs in the US. As such, there will be no taxes to pay or report on the transactions within the account -- much like a US IRA. However, you cannot easily move an RRSP into an IRA without incurring early withdrawl penalties, taxes, and such. Best thing to do is probably to leave the RRSP intact. You should be able to change the investments within the account. If there are rules regarding changes to the investment mix, they are entirely with the RRSP custodian, and not limited by law. There might even be US dollar denominated options available. It just has to be held in Canada. When you take out the money at retirement, you will have a Canadian return to report the distribution. It will also be reported on your US return, with the usual options for preventing double taxation. Remember, you will need to report the RRSP balances on an attachment to your US return every year. - quote - > Would anyone out there have wise words of advice -- a
Consider it diversification?> strategy, in other words -- regarding RRSPs for American > residents? Good luck! Bryan -- Bryan Kellar, EA Oregon Tax Help, Inc. Portland, Oregon www.oregontaxhelp.com www.canadatax.org << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I started my career in Canada and then after 4 years moved to the United States. I've now spent 5 years here, am married to an American and will not likely be moving back to Canada -- except, possibly, for summers in a summer vacation home. As it turns out, approximately 20% of my overall retirement portfolio is currently in RRSPs. I'm actually quite happy to have Cdn $ denominated assets right now in my retirement account, but I really don't like what's happened to my asset mix and I understand that I'm not allowed to change it. Moreover, I have no clue what I'll actually be able to do when I retire with my Cdn RRSPs in the US. Would anyone out there have wise words of advice -- a strategy, in other words -- regarding RRSPs for American residents? Thank you, jelgie[at]gmail.com PS I expect to get a green card and US citizenship eventually, if that is of help to anyone. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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