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| - quote - > > I think the PA SUI is relatively new in that it's rate
PA SUI is not new. I belive in the early 90's PA SUI> > changes year-to-year and for several years prior the rate > > has been 0%. > Is there a confusion here between state unemployment > insurance and a small portion of workmen compensation > insurance. Unemployment insurance is not charged to the > employee. withholding was required. From what I understand, PA SUI withholding is required once the overall UC Fund hits a certain level. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Jon" <hatch[at]iname.com> wrote: - quote - > A.G. Kalman wrote:
Is there a confusion here between state unemployment> > kevbo wrote: > > > This is from the State of PA Dept of Revenue website that > > > states that 'YES, it is a Federal Deduction.' Link below > > > for you to confirm. > > > > > http://www.dli.state.pa.us/landi/cwp...a=152&q=205138 > > The document states that the IRS agreed to allow it as an > > itemized deduction. It doesn't say to deduct it as a state > > income tax. If anything, it sounds like a misc. itemized > > deduction subject to the 2% AGI limitation (expense to > > produce taxable income). > PA SUI is manditory and based on a percentage of income > which is federally taxable. Therefore it fits the general > description of a deductible state income tax (Line 5, Sched. > A, Form 1040). (It is clearly not deductile for PA state > income tax. Hardly anything is.) The IRS choose to identify > some state disability taxes without saying "includes but is > not limited to." > I think the PA SUI is relatively new in that it's rate > changes year-to-year and for several years prior the rate > has been 0%. insurance and a small portion of workmen compensation insurance. Unemployment insurance is not charged to the employee. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A.G. Kalman wrote: - quote - > kevbo wrote:
PA SUI is manditory and based on a percentage of income> > This is from the State of PA Dept of Revenue website that > > states that 'YES, it is a Federal Deduction.' Link below > > for you to confirm. > > > http://www.dli.state.pa.us/landi/cwp...a=152&q=205138 > The document states that the IRS agreed to allow it as an > itemized deduction. It doesn't say to deduct it as a state > income tax. If anything, it sounds like a misc. itemized > deduction subject to the 2% AGI limitation (expense to > produce taxable income). which is federally taxable. Therefore it fits the general description of a deductible state income tax (Line 5, Sched. A, Form 1040). (It is clearly not deductile for PA state income tax. Hardly anything is.) The IRS choose to identify some state disability taxes without saying "includes but is not limited to." I think the PA SUI is relatively new in that it's rate changes year-to-year and for several years prior the rate has been 0%. Jon << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| kevbo wrote: - quote - > This is from the State of PA Dept of Revenue website that
The document states that the IRS agreed to allow it as an> states that 'YES, it is a Federal Deduction.' Link below > for you to confirm. > http://www.dli.state.pa.us/landi/cwp...a=152&q=205138 itemized deduction. It doesn't say to deduct it as a state income tax. If anything, it sounds like a misc. itemized deduction subject to the 2% AGI limitation (expense to produce taxable income). -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "A.G. Kalman" <glendale202-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > CBotella wrote:
Unemployment insurance is totally employer paid. A small> > SUI qualifies for a federal deduction on Schedule A, if you > > itemize. > > > However, for PA which has a "flat" tax, there is no > > deduction allowed for taxes paid. > If PA SUI is deductible, as you say, as a state income tax, > why does the IRS specifically identify only the following > five state plans as meeting the definition of a deductible > income tax? > . Mandatory contributions you made to the California, New > Jersey, or New York Nonoccupational Disability Benefit Fund, > Rhode Island Temporary Disability Benefit Fund, or > Washington State Supplemental Workmen's Compensation Fund. portion in industrial insurance is paid by the employee. Industrial insurance is not, in anyway, the same as unemployment insurance. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| This is from the State of PA Dept of Revenue website that states that 'YES, it is a Federal Deduction.' Link below for you to confirm. http://www.dli.state.pa.us/landi/cwp...a=152&q=205138 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A.G. Kalman wrote: - quote - > CBotella wrote:
Yeah! Helen? what about it?> > SUI qualifies for a federal deduction on Schedule A, if you > > itemize. > > > However, for PA which has a "flat" tax, there is no > > deduction allowed for taxes paid. > If PA SUI is deductible, as you say, as a state income tax, > why does the IRS specifically identify only the following > five state plans as meeting the definition of a deductible > income tax? > • Mandatory contributions you made to the California, New > Jersey, or New York Nonoccupational Disability Benefit Fund, > Rhode Island Temporary Disability Benefit Fund, or > Washington State Supplemental Workmen's Compensation Fund. IMWTK ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Thu 10 Feb 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A.G. Kalman wrote: - quote - > CBotella wrote:
Whoops.... Misread the big word that said "Unemployment."> > SUI qualifies for a federal deduction on Schedule A, if you > > itemize. > > > However, for PA which has a "flat" tax, there is no > > deduction allowed for taxes paid. > If PA SUI is deductible, as you say, as a state income tax, > why does the IRS specifically identify only the following > five state plans as meeting the definition of a deductible > income tax? > • Mandatory contributions you made to the California, New > Jersey, or New York Nonoccupational Disability Benefit Fund, > Rhode Island Temporary Disability Benefit Fund, or > Washington State Supplemental Workmen's Compensation Fund. Thought it said "Disability." -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I have lived in PA for a dozen years. This is the first
I throw it Other Taxes along with the OPT and OST.> time I have had anything in Box 14 on my W2. > Just like you, this year I have "PA SUI". > I am clueless as what to do with it. > Even the TurboTax program is clueless, and is actually > asking ME for TAX guidance. It offers suggestions for > several other states, but nothing for PA! > What the heck do you do with "PA SUI"???? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| CBotella wrote: - quote - > SUI qualifies for a federal deduction on Schedule A, if you
If PA SUI is deductible, as you say, as a state income tax,> itemize. > However, for PA which has a "flat" tax, there is no > deduction allowed for taxes paid. why does the IRS specifically identify only the following five state plans as meeting the definition of a deductible income tax? • Mandatory contributions you made to the California, New Jersey, or New York Nonoccupational Disability Benefit Fund, Rhode Island Temporary Disability Benefit Fund, or Washington State Supplemental Workmen's Compensation Fund. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I have lived in PA for a dozen years. This is the first time I have had anything in Box 14 on my W2. Just like you, this year I have "PA SUI". I am clueless as what to do with it. Even the TurboTax program is clueless, and is actually asking ME for TAX guidance. It offers suggestions for several other states, but nothing for PA! What the heck do you do with "PA SUI"???? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| SUI qualifies for a federal deduction on Schedule A, if you itemize. However, for PA which has a "flat" tax, there is no deduction allowed for taxes paid. Kate, EA in PA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My PA W2 box 14 has "PA SUI" in it. I assume this is "state unemployment insurance." Does this qualify for itemized deduction in both federal and state return? berchman[at]yahoo.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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