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| "Mike Lewis" <jmpj[at]cableone.net> wrote: - quote - > A client who has been an S Corp since inception has a
First - returns for the early 90s are WAY past fixing so> shareholder basis worksheet from previous accountant that > shows a basis 125K more than the S corp retained > earnings+capital+SH loans. He brought me copies of 1040's > and 1120S's from inception. The variance is due to a couple > of years in early 90's when he had losses above basis but > applied such loss against his other income. > Would you just go with what he gave you, ask him to correct > basis going forward, amend the old returns to rectify the > variance, or what? > What items if any would create a legitamate difference > between book retained income (both cash basis using tax > method of accounting on depreciation) and SH basis? there isn't much you can do about them no matter how wrong they are. Their impact on basis is another matter. Second - if a new client had produced a basis statement for the prior year and told me it was right, I'm not sure I would have reviewed the prior 10-years worth of returns to check. I don't think you did anything wrong, in fact I think you did the right thing by doing more than most of us what do. The problem is that now that you know what he gave you is incorrect I believe you are obligated to correct it. Third - while it sometimes works out, there is NOT necessarily ANY direct correlation between retained earnings + S/H Loans + Capital to basis. The most common example would be if I purchased stock from a prior owner. The price I pay would not get reflected anywhere on the corporate books, hence no correlation. I'm sure there are other reasons as well, but they elude me at the moment. I'd suggest that you are obligated to make your best calculations to correct his basis to what it should be because you KNOW what he gave you is wrong. You may have to generate a blank basis worksheet from your tax software and do manual calculations from the very beginning. You WILL have to make adjustments for losses he claimed that he was NOT entitled to - reducing his basis in later years for the losses he deducted that he was not entitled to (good luck with this!). The short route would be to reduce the basis amount he gave you by the losses he claimed that he wasn't entitled to previously, BUT I'd caution you about doing this. If the prior accountant allowed him to deduct losses in excess of basis I'd have little confidence in that accountant's ability to correctly calculate basis to begin with - I'd feel obligated to check it. Good luck, Gene E. Utterback, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Mike Lewis" <jmpj[at]cableone.net> wrote: - quote - > A client who has been an S Corp since inception has a
I'd adjust basis and leave it at that. As for the second> shareholder basis worksheet from previous accountant that > shows a basis 125K more than the S corp retained > earnings+capital+SH loans. He brought me copies of 1040's > and 1120S's from inception. The variance is due to a couple > of years in early 90's when he had losses above basis but > applied such loss against his other income. > Would you just go with what he gave you, ask him to correct > basis going forward, amend the old returns to rectify the > variance, or what? > What items if any would create a legitamate difference > between book retained income (both cash basis using tax > method of accounting on depreciation) and SH basis? question, on a cash basis taxpayer using tax depreciation for book....hmmm. I'd have to think about that one. Insurance policy proceeds? Tax exempt income? Those would be OAA adjustments. Even 263A wouldn't apply here. I dunno. I'm stumped. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A client who has been an S Corp since inception has a shareholder basis worksheet from previous accountant that shows a basis 125K more than the S corp retained earnings+capital+SH loans. He brought me copies of 1040's and 1120S's from inception. The variance is due to a couple of years in early 90's when he had losses above basis but applied such loss against his other income. Would you just go with what he gave you, ask him to correct basis going forward, amend the old returns to rectify the variance, or what? What items if any would create a legitamate difference between book retained income (both cash basis using tax method of accounting on depreciation) and SH basis? mike << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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