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| "Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "jtc" <jtamchay[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
thank you...after much reading we were able to fill out this> > Form 8283 is 2 pages... > > Section A, Part 1 will be the only section filled in. > <snip > > nowhere on this 8283 Form does there seem to be a > > line that identifies the total donation and only on Schedule > > A line 16 do we have a place for the total > > amount....$1,035.00 > > > are we reading this correctly? > Yes. The total doesn't go on the 8283 in your situation. form properly, we think, and the taxes are in the mail. this forum offered some good information and we appreciate those who reply to even those questions that sound very "dumb". << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Richard Barndt wrote: - quote - > "A.G. Kalman" <glendale202-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
Hers is not taxable as she did not itemize. Yours is> > jtc wrote: > > > question 1. > > > couple married in October 2004 > > > each received a MN tax refund for 2003 > > > do we just add both of those together and record on line 10 > > > on the 1040 form? > > > > > question 2. > > > form 8283 > > > is this the proper form to attach for Schedule A > > > donations...couple donated household furnishings, furniture, > > > dishes etc when they combined households...it is more than > > > 500.00 > > Q1. Assuming they are filing a joint return, you would > > always add together any items of income they both received. > > Whether or not they have to declare each of their state tax > > refunds as 2004 income is a different question. First you > > must determine if each person itemized their 2003 tax > > deductions and took a deduction for state income taxes paid. > > Generally, if they did, the refund would be taxable. > > However, under certain circumstances, they may not have > > received the full tax benefit for their itemized deductions > > because the income level was too high and the deductions > > were reduced or the amount of itemized deductions was only > > marginally higher than the standard deduction and the amount > > of the refund is less than that marginal difference. This > > requires an additional step to make the determination as to > > how much of the refund must be declared as taxable in 2004. > I was not following this whole thread, so I may have missed > something. I have what appears to be a similar situation. > Single last year, married joint this year. I itemized, she > did not. Both received a refund of state income tax. My > refund is potentially taxable (and is taxable according to > the worksheet instructions) and hers is not. Is that > correct? taxable if you received a tax benefit for the deduction of state income taxes. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "jtc" <jtamchay[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Form 8283 is 2 pages...
<snip> Section A, Part 1 will be the only section filled in. - quote - > nowhere on this 8283 Form does there seem to be a
Yes. The total doesn't go on the 8283 in your situation.> line that identifies the total donation and only on Schedule > A line 16 do we have a place for the total > amount....$1,035.00 > are we reading this correctly? Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "A.G. Kalman" <glendale202-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > jtc wrote:
I was not following this whole thread, so I may have missed> > question 1. > > couple married in October 2004 > > each received a MN tax refund for 2003 > > do we just add both of those together and record on line 10 > > on the 1040 form? > > > question 2. > > form 8283 > > is this the proper form to attach for Schedule A > > donations...couple donated household furnishings, furniture, > > dishes etc when they combined households...it is more than > > 500.00 > Q1. Assuming they are filing a joint return, you would > always add together any items of income they both received. > Whether or not they have to declare each of their state tax > refunds as 2004 income is a different question. First you > must determine if each person itemized their 2003 tax > deductions and took a deduction for state income taxes paid. > Generally, if they did, the refund would be taxable. > However, under certain circumstances, they may not have > received the full tax benefit for their itemized deductions > because the income level was too high and the deductions > were reduced or the amount of itemized deductions was only > marginally higher than the standard deduction and the amount > of the refund is less than that marginal difference. This > requires an additional step to make the determination as to > how much of the refund must be declared as taxable in 2004. something. I have what appears to be a similar situation. Single last year, married joint this year. I itemized, she did not. Both received a refund of state income tax. My refund is potentially taxable (and is taxable according to the worksheet instructions) and hers is not. Is that correct? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "jtc" <jtamchay[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > question 1.
You look at them individually to determine what part, if> couple married in October 2004 > each received a MN tax refund for 2003 > do we just add both of those together and record on line 10 > on the 1040 form? any, of the refund is taxable 2004 income. (See the instructions for line 10 of the 1040.) Put the taxable total for the two of you on line 10. - quote - > question 2.
Yes.> form 8283 > is this the proper form to attach for Schedule A > donations...couple donated household furnishings, furniture, > dishes etc when they combined households...it is more than > 500.00 Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Form 8283 is 2 pages... Section A, Part 1 will be the only section filled in. Here's the question: Section A Part 2 does not apply Section B Parts 1,2,3 do not apply Section B Part IV seems to apply only to any part of Section B donations nowhere on this 8283 Form does there seem to be a line that identifies the total donation and only on Schedule A line 16 do we have a place for the total amount....$1,035.00 are we reading this correctly? seems like a lot of paperwork to make a donation of household goods thanks -- jtc jtamchay[at]yahoo.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| jtc wrote: - quote - > question 1.
If you each itemized deductions in 2003, yes. If either> couple married in October 2004 > each received a MN tax refund for 2003 > do we just add both of those together and record on line 10 > on the 1040 form? did not, then that refund is not taxable. - quote - > question 2.
Yes. If no individual item is more than $500, you don't> form 8283 > is this the proper form to attach for Schedule A > donations...couple donated household furnishings, furniture, > dishes etc when they combined households...it is more than > 500.00 need to keep track of the basis and date acquired. Furniture, on the other hand.... << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| 1. yes, after you run the worksheet to see if any or all of it is reportable. 2. yes, signed by the donee. Missy Doyle << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| jtc wrote: - quote - > question 1.
Q1. Assuming they are filing a joint return, you would> couple married in October 2004 > each received a MN tax refund for 2003 > do we just add both of those together and record on line 10 > on the 1040 form? > question 2. > form 8283 > is this the proper form to attach for Schedule A > donations...couple donated household furnishings, furniture, > dishes etc when they combined households...it is more than > 500.00 always add together any items of income they both received. Whether or not they have to declare each of their state tax refunds as 2004 income is a different question. First you must determine if each person itemized their 2003 tax deductions and took a deduction for state income taxes paid. Generally, if they did, the refund would be taxable. However, under certain circumstances, they may not have received the full tax benefit for their itemized deductions because the income level was too high and the deductions were reduced or the amount of itemized deductions was only marginally higher than the standard deduction and the amount of the refund is less than that marginal difference. This requires an additional step to make the determination as to how much of the refund must be declared as taxable in 2004. Q2. Yes. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| jtc wrote: - quote - > question 1.
Yes; assuming that for each, the deduction last year> couple married in October 2004 > each received a MN tax refund for 2003 > do we just add both of those together and record on line 10 > on the 1040 form? resulting in a tax benefit. Fill out two different worksheets to figure amount includible in income. - quote - > question 2.
Right.> form 8283 > is this the proper form to attach for Schedule A > donations...couple donated household furnishings, furniture, > dishes etc when they combined households...it is more than > 500.00 ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Wed 26 Jan 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > couple married in October 2004
Yes, assuming that each of them itemized deductions in 2003> each received a MN tax refund for 2003 > do we just add both of those together and record on line 10 > on the 1040 form? and that their individual deductions would have been greater than their standard deductions even without the MN taxes. (Usual rule) - quote - > form 8283
Yes.> is this the proper form to attach for Schedule A > donations...couple donated household furnishings, furniture, > dishes etc when they combined households...it is more than > 500.00 -- Don EA in Upstate NY << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "jtc" <jtamchay[at]yahoo.com> wrote - quote - > question 1.
Yup.> couple married in October 2004 > each received a MN tax refund for 2003 > do we just add both of those together and record on line 10 > on the 1040 form? - quote - > question 2.
Yup again.> form 8283 > is this the proper form to attach for Schedule A > donations...couple donated household furnishings, furniture, > dishes etc when they combined households...it is more than > 500.00 -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia taxman at negia.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| question 1. couple married in October 2004 each received a MN tax refund for 2003 do we just add both of those together and record on line 10 on the 1040 form? question 2. form 8283 is this the proper form to attach for Schedule A donations...couple donated household furnishings, furniture, dishes etc when they combined households...it is more than 500.00 thanks -- jtc jtamchay[at]yahoo.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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