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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > enduranceal wrote:
I thought about that, too, particularly since Alabama and> > John has been living with Mary and Mary's two children for > > the past five years. John and Mary are not married and John > > is the only wage earner in this family. John is not the > > father of Mary's children. John will be filing head of > > household with Mary and the two children as dependents. > > > Is John automatically excluded for the earned income credit > > because he is not married to Mary? I've read Pub. 596 and > > to claim the earned income credit John must have a > > qualifying child. A qualifying child must have a > > relationship to John but these children, although John takes > > care of as his own, have no legal or blood relationship to > > John. (relationship test) > > > Am I missing something here? It really doesn't sound fair > > to me. It appears that John is a second class taxpayer > > because he isn't married. > > > Am I looking at this wrong or can someone shed some light on > > this problem. > The only thing I can think of is: Do they live in a > "common-law" marriage state? If so, it may be possible for > him to end up with EIC..... If no CLM, then I agree with > the others - no EIC. Georgia are common law states. So then, question for client: is a refundable tax credit of maybe...4,300$ actually WORTH holding yourself out as being married? Remember; you'll have to get a formal divorce if push comes to shove in the future. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| enduranceal wrote: - quote - > John has been living with Mary and Mary's two children for
The only thing I can think of is: Do they live in a> the past five years. John and Mary are not married and John > is the only wage earner in this family. John is not the > father of Mary's children. John will be filing head of > household with Mary and the two children as dependents. > Is John automatically excluded for the earned income credit > because he is not married to Mary? I've read Pub. 596 and > to claim the earned income credit John must have a > qualifying child. A qualifying child must have a > relationship to John but these children, although John takes > care of as his own, have no legal or blood relationship to > John. (relationship test) > Am I missing something here? It really doesn't sound fair > to me. It appears that John is a second class taxpayer > because he isn't married. > Am I looking at this wrong or can someone shed some light on > this problem. > Thanks in advance. "common-law" marriage state? If so, it may be possible for him to end up with EIC..... If no CLM, then I agree with the others - no EIC. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "enduranceal" <taxman99[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > John has been living with Mary and Mary's two children for
No.> the past five years. John and Mary are not married and John > is the only wage earner in this family. John is not the > father of Mary's children. John will be filing head of > household with Mary and the two children as dependents. > Is John automatically excluded for the earned income credit > because he is not married to Mary? I've read Pub. 596 and > to claim the earned income credit John must have a > qualifying child. A qualifying child must have a > relationship to John but these children, although John takes > care of as his own, have no legal or blood relationship to > John. (relationship test) > Am I missing something here? - quote - > It really doesn't sound fair
It's called "family values."> to me. It appears that John is a second class taxpayer > because he isn't married. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| enduranceal wrote: - quote - > Is John automatically excluded for the earned income credit
I believe so. The definition of foster child used to cover> because he is not married to Mary? his situation, but doesn't anymore. - quote - > It appears that John is a second class taxpayer
That's true in general, though. Fortunately for John, he> because he isn't married. could correct the situation; not everyone has that option available to them. Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "enduranceal" <taxman99[at]aol.com> wrote - quote - > John has been living with Mary and Mary's two children for
Nope. Those children are not qualifying children for> the past five years. John and Mary are not married and John > is the only wage earner in this family. John is not the > father of Mary's children. John will be filing head of > household with Mary and the two children as dependents. > Is John automatically excluded for the earned income credit > because he is not married to Mary? I've read Pub. 596 and > to claim the earned income credit John must have a > qualifying child. A qualifying child must have a > relationship to John but these children, although John takes > care of as his own, have no legal or blood relationship to > John. (relationship test) > Am I missing something here? purposes of the EIC. - quote - > It really doesn't sound fair to me.
Laws aren't always fair to everyone.- quote - > It appears that John is a second class taxpayer
There are lots of deductions, exemptions, exceptions and> because he isn't married. credits that have very strict limitations. This is just one of them. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia taxman at negia.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Taxpayer with long term live-in companion and her two
Your interpretation of the rules is correct.> children. an get HoH, but not EIC? You have come across the differences in the definition of "foster child" For dependency or HoH purposes the foster child must live with you for the entire year, be under your care, and treated as your own child. For EIC purposes, a foster child need only live with you for six months, but must have been placed under your care by an agency. Assuming that the relationship with the children has never been formalized, he does not have a qualifying person for EIC. - quote - > Am I missing something here? It really doesn't sound fair
In contrast, in the case where both adults work, a married> to me. It appears that John is a second class taxpayer. couple often gets no EIC at all because their joint income is over the limit. Don't dwell on the definitions of "child" ... they have already been changed for the 2005 tax year. -- Don EA in Upstate NY << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| John has been living with Mary and Mary's two children for the past five years. John and Mary are not married and John is the only wage earner in this family. John is not the father of Mary's children. John will be filing head of household with Mary and the two children as dependents. Is John automatically excluded for the earned income credit because he is not married to Mary? I've read Pub. 596 and to claim the earned income credit John must have a qualifying child. A qualifying child must have a relationship to John but these children, although John takes care of as his own, have no legal or blood relationship to John. (relationship test) Am I missing something here? It really doesn't sound fair to me. It appears that John is a second class taxpayer because he isn't married. Am I looking at this wrong or can someone shed some light on this problem. Thanks in advance. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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