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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > Bonnie Forman wrote:
On this, I disagree. Where the "2-job mileage" is involved,> > Can anyone please confirm my understanding of this > > particular qualification for taking mileage as an expense: > > > If I am a self-employed Aerobic instructor, I cannot take > > mileage as an expense when traveling from my home to the > > location where I teach my class. And it doesn't matter if I > > have a home office. However.... > Well -- there are some cases which seem to specify that, if > you have a home office, and no other office, then you CAN > take mileage from your home office to your class location. > > If I teach a class, and then travel directly to another > > location to teach another class, I can take the distance > > between the two classes as a mileage expense. > Yes. > > Or, in addition to being self employed, I have a full time > > job (employee), and when traveling from my full time job > > directly to my class to teach, I can take that distance as > > mileage expense. > Yes -- and contrary to a reply already made on the board, > the general concensus seems to be that mileage from job A to > job B is reported as a deduction on job B's form. So if you > were to travel from teaching your class TO your regular job, > the mileage would only be deductible on form 2016 as a > miscellaneous itemized deduction, while, in the situation > you specified, the deduction is properly taken on Schedule C. if EITHER job is an employee-type situation, then the deduction goes on 2106. It doesn't matter if the other job is SE. Only if BOTH jobs are SE does it go to Schedule C (allocated half to each activity). As for the trip from home to the SE location, I recognize the recent change in attitude, but I still have a problem with it since the SE location is still the "tax home" for that activity. The home office may be qualified (for paperwork/accounting/management reasons), but that in itself doesn't make it a second location sufficient to deduct the mileage between locations when there is a remote, static (i.e. non-changing) location where 100% of the [SE] income is earned. Be warned that this change that relaxes the rule may not be based on sound reasoning. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| CBotella wrote: - quote - > > Paul A. Thomas wrote
If he were going from one job as an employee to another job> > But, the distance between your regular job > > as an employee and your aerobics instruction (where you are > > self-employed) isn't Schedule C business related mileage. > Paul, I must question this. If TP is going from job 1 to > job 2 (albeit S/E job), wouldn't it still be deductible? I > would think it would be. as an employee (vs self employed as we have here), yes; deductible. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "CBotella" <cbotella[at]aol.com> wrote - quote - > Paul, I must question this. If TP is going from job 1 to
Schedule A, for sure. I would venture to say that a> job 2 (albeit S/E job), wouldn't it still be deductible? I > would think it would be. Schedule C deduction for that travel won't pass muster if audited. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Bonnie Forman wrote:
Thanks to all who replied !! You've been very helpful.> > Can anyone please confirm my understanding of this > > particular qualification for taking mileage as an expense: Bonnie << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Paul A. Thomas wrote
Paul, I must question this. If TP is going from job 1 to> But, the distance between your regular job > as an employee and your aerobics instruction (where you are > self-employed) isn't Schedule C business related mileage. job 2 (albeit S/E job), wouldn't it still be deductible? I would think it would be. Kate, EA in PA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Paul" <TaxMan[at]negia.net> wrote: <..snip Thank you for your reply. Do you happen to know what publication I might be able to find more information about qualifications for claiming mileage expense? Bonnie << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Bonnie Forman wrote: - quote - > Can anyone please confirm my understanding of this
Well -- there are some cases which seem to specify that, if> particular qualification for taking mileage as an expense: > If I am a self-employed Aerobic instructor, I cannot take > mileage as an expense when traveling from my home to the > location where I teach my class. And it doesn't matter if I > have a home office. However.... you have a home office, and no other office, then you CAN take mileage from your home office to your class location. - quote - > If I teach a class, and then travel directly to another
Yes.> location to teach another class, I can take the distance > between the two classes as a mileage expense. - quote - > Or, in addition to being self employed, I have a full time
Yes -- and contrary to a reply already made on the board,> job (employee), and when traveling from my full time job > directly to my class to teach, I can take that distance as > mileage expense. the general concensus seems to be that mileage from job A to job B is reported as a deduction on job B's form. So if you were to travel from teaching your class TO your regular job, the mileage would only be deductible on form 2016 as a miscellaneous itemized deduction, while, in the situation you specified, the deduction is properly taken on Schedule C. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| bons77[at]NO.pacbell.net (Bonnie) posted: - quote - > Can anyone please confirm my understanding
Since in the first instance you are going to a fixed> of this particular qualification for taking > mileage as an expense: > If I am a self-employed Aerobic instructor, I > cannot take mileage as an expense when > traveling from my home to the location where I > teach my class. And it doesn't matter if I have > a home office. =A0 However.... > If I teach a class, and then travel directly to > another location to teach another class, I can > take the distance between the two classes as > a mileage expense. location, which you presumably rent or is provided for you, it _used to be_ considered commuting. So your view was correct, in the past. My understanding is that, beginning in 2004, if you basically work out of your home and travel to your work locations, you can *now* consider that as a business expense (current mileage is [at]37.5 cents per). So you now *can* decuct this expense. This was just covered in an IRS course with I attended for TaxAide. - quote - > Or, in addition to being self employed, I have a
I think so. And, since you're travelling to the new site to> full time job (employee), and when traveling > from my full time job directly to my class to > teach, I can take that distance as mileage > expense. > Did you follow that :-) ?? earn income for your self-employment, it also would be a business expense. - quote - > Is my understanding of this correct? Also, can
Pub 17, Chapter 28 -- Business Expenses. In the 2004> you point me to what tax publication explains > the qualifications for taking mileage as an > expense? edition, Transportation Expense is covered on page 191. The section covers "expenses you can deduct when you are not traveling away from home" and includes "the cost of driving and maintaining your car." There is a list of situations which follows that, and it covers you explicitly. There is also another paragraph later, which covers "Two places of work." I think if you read that entire section, you will be clear on the situation. Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Bonnie Forman wrote: - quote - > Can anyone please confirm my understanding of this
Publication 17, p184-5, If you meet the three factors for a> particular qualification for taking mileage as an expense: > If I am a self-employed Aerobic instructor, I cannot take > mileage as an expense when traveling from my home to the > location where I teach my class. And it doesn't matter if I > have a home office. However.... > If I teach a class, and then travel directly to another > location to teach another class, I can take the distance > between the two classes as a mileage expense. > Or, in addition to being self employed, I have a full time > job (employee), and when traveling from my full time job > directly to my class to teach, I can take that distance as > mileage expense. > Did you follow that :-) ?? > Is my understanding of this correct? Also, can you point me > to what tax publication explains the qualifications for > taking mileage as an expense? "tax home" then you can deduct expenses for travel on business away from that home. So you are correct. HOW to EXPLAIN that on your income tax form(s) is the tricky bit! Your-Mileage-May-Vary :-) - RM << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Bonnie Forman wrote: - quote - > Can anyone please confirm my understanding of this
Actually, if you have a valid home office (exclusive use> particular qualification for taking mileage as an expense: > If I am a self-employed Aerobic instructor, I cannot take > mileage as an expense when traveling from my home to the > location where I teach my class. And it doesn't matter if I > have a home office. space) you CAN deduct mileage from home to your first client. However.... - quote - > If I teach a class, and then travel directly to another
Correct> location to teach another class, I can take the distance > between the two classes as a mileage expense. - quote - > Or, in addition to being self employed, I have a full time
Correct> job (employee), and when traveling from my full time job > directly to my class to teach, I can take that distance as > mileage expense. - quote - > Did you follow that :-) ??
Yes- quote - > Is my understanding of this correct?
Almost, see above.- quote - > Also, can you point me
IRS Pub 334, p 51, should suffice for a Schedule C business.> to what tax publication explains the qualifications for > taking mileage as an expense? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Bonnie Forman wrote: - quote - > Can anyone please confirm my understanding of this
Yes. The reason you get mileage in those cases is because> particular qualification for taking mileage as an expense: > If I am a self-employed Aerobic instructor, I cannot take > mileage as an expense when traveling from my home to the > location where I teach my class. And it doesn't matter if I > have a home office. However.... > If I teach a class, and then travel directly to another > location to teach another class, I can take the distance > between the two classes as a mileage expense. > Or, in addition to being self employed, I have a full time > job (employee), and when traveling from my full time job > directly to my class to teach, I can take that distance as > mileage expense. > Did you follow that :-) ?? > Is my understanding of this correct? Also, can you point me > to what tax publication explains the qualifications for > taking mileage as an expense? you are either travelling between two jobs or between two locations for the same job. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Bonnie Forman" <bons77[at]NOSPAM.pacbell.net> wrote - quote - > Can anyone please confirm my understanding of this
Basically yes. But, the distance between your regular job> particular qualification for taking mileage as an expense: > If I am a self-employed Aerobic instructor, I cannot take > mileage as an expense when traveling from my home to the > location where I teach my class. And it doesn't matter if I > have a home office. However.... > If I teach a class, and then travel directly to another > location to teach another class, I can take the distance > between the two classes as a mileage expense. > Or, in addition to being self employed, I have a full time > job (employee), and when traveling from my full time job > directly to my class to teach, I can take that distance as > mileage expense. > Did you follow that :-) ?? > Is my understanding of this correct? Also, can you point me > to what tax publication explains the qualifications for > taking mileage as an expense? as an employee and your aerobics instruction (where you are self-employed) isn't Schedule C business related mileage. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Can anyone please confirm my understanding of this particular qualification for taking mileage as an expense: If I am a self-employed Aerobic instructor, I cannot take mileage as an expense when traveling from my home to the location where I teach my class. And it doesn't matter if I have a home office. However.... If I teach a class, and then travel directly to another location to teach another class, I can take the distance between the two classes as a mileage expense. Or, in addition to being self employed, I have a full time job (employee), and when traveling from my full time job directly to my class to teach, I can take that distance as mileage expense. Did you follow that :-) ?? Is my understanding of this correct? Also, can you point me to what tax publication explains the qualifications for taking mileage as an expense? TIA, Bonnie << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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