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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > OK, so if a [professional] babysitter were to sit for 100
Probably exempt from the W-2 requirements, unless one> different households, would you really be expecting him/her > to recieve 100 W-2's? employer paid more than $1400 to her in a year, or more than $1000 to all household employees in a quarter. No, it's line 7, with "HSH" and the dollar amount on the dotted line. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > One client or a hundred, babysitting in the client's home
Yes> > is, to me, the perfect example of an employer/employee > > relationship. The parents provide the workplace, set the > > hours, prescribe the activities, and provide the tools. How > > in the world could one consider the sitter to be an > > independent contractor? > OK, so if a [professional] babysitter were to sit for 100 > different households, would you really be expecting him/her > to recieve 100 W-2's? - quote - > Holding one's self out to the public favors an IC
When studying employment tax law I must have missed the fact> relationship over employment. that this is a consideration that trumps all others. Using this logic anyone who put a "position wanted" ad in the paper would be an independent contractor if more than one person hired him for part-time positions. IC vs. employee requires looking at the entire situation, and I'll stick with what I said before. Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > > I do. Babysitting in the client's home is almost always as
OK, so if a [professional] babysitter were to sit for 100> > > an employee, rather than as a contractor. > > If there is only one household per year this is done for, > > then OK (although I will really say that there isn't enough > > information technically to answer the employee/IC issue). > > However, do this for multiple households and I see an IC, > > not a household employee. > One client or a hundred, babysitting in the client's home > is, to me, the perfect example of an employer/employee > relationship. The parents provide the workplace, set the > hours, prescribe the activities, and provide the tools. How > in the world could one consider the sitter to be an > independent contractor? different households, would you really be expecting him/her to recieve 100 W-2's? Holding one's self out to the public favors an IC relationship over employment. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
I can't quote IRS regulations on this, although I'm sure> > D. Stussy wrote: > > > mytax[at]adams.net wrote: > > > > Wife's income will go on line 21 (other income). Your > > > > income should go on a schedule C -EZ and also on a Schedule > > > > SE. The Sched. C or C-EZ will flow to line 12 on the Form > > > > 1040. The SE tax will flow to line 57 of the form 1040. > > > I don't see a distinction in the nature of the two incomes. > > I do. Babysitting in the client's home is almost always as > > an employee, rather than as a contractor. > If there is only one household per year this is done for, > then OK (although I will really say that there isn't enough > information technically to answer the employee/IC issue). > However, do this for multiple households and I see an IC, > not a household employee. there are some -- however, CA is quite clear that a babysitter working in the client's home and babysitting only for the client's children is a household employee, and cannot be an independent contractor. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > I do. Babysitting in the client's home is almost always as
One client or a hundred, babysitting in the client's home> > an employee, rather than as a contractor. > If there is only one household per year this is done for, > then OK (although I will really say that there isn't enough > information technically to answer the employee/IC issue). > However, do this for multiple households and I see an IC, > not a household employee. is, to me, the perfect example of an employer/employee relationship. The parents provide the workplace, set the hours, prescribe the activities, and provide the tools. How in the world could one consider the sitter to be an independent contractor? Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > D. Stussy wrote:
If there is only one household per year this is done for,> > mytax[at]adams.net wrote: > > > Wife's income will go on line 21 (other income). Your > > > income should go on a schedule C -EZ and also on a Schedule > > > SE. The Sched. C or C-EZ will flow to line 12 on the Form > > > 1040. The SE tax will flow to line 57 of the form 1040. > > I don't see a distinction in the nature of the two incomes. > I do. Babysitting in the client's home is almost always as > an employee, rather than as a contractor. then OK (although I will really say that there isn't enough information technically to answer the employee/IC issue). However, do this for multiple households and I see an IC, not a household employee. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > mytax[at]adams.net wrote:
I do. Babysitting in the client's home is almost always as> > Wife's income will go on line 21 (other income). Your > > income should go on a schedule C -EZ and also on a Schedule > > SE. The Sched. C or C-EZ will flow to line 12 on the Form > > 1040. The SE tax will flow to line 57 of the form 1040. > I don't see a distinction in the nature of the two incomes. an employee, rather than as a contractor. Car repairs and PC service are more likely to be as a contractor, as the OP supposedly has expert knowledge, and is not directed as to how the work is to be done. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| mytax[at]adams.net wrote: - quote - > Wife's income will go on line 21 (other income). Your
I don't see a distinction in the nature of the two incomes.> income should go on a schedule C -EZ and also on a Schedule > SE. The Sched. C or C-EZ will flow to line 12 on the Form > 1040. The SE tax will flow to line 57 of the form 1040. Why not both on [separate] schedule C's (or C-EZ's)? That's what I would consider as the correct way. It doesn't matter that her income was less than the SE Tax threshold. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| crlackey wrote: - quote - > I think this situation is like occasional baby sitting.
You and your wife each fill out a schedule c-ez and bottom> I am retired and surviving on a small pension and SS. > Occasionally I earn extra income performing minor car > service and PC service. For 2004 I collected around $1,200. > Spouse collected probably less than $200 this year for > occasional baby sitting, sometimes at home, but usually > elsewhere. > We do not itemize deductions. > I have no trackable expenses or overhead that's obvious. > I know this is "other income" that needs to be taxed at the > state and federal levels. How do I report it? line will tell you where to go from there. Both profits are income taxable, but only yours is subject to social security (SE) tax. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Mon, 10 Jan 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| crlackey wrote: - quote - > Occasionally I earn extra income performing minor car
Line 21 (arguably not subject to SE tax) for you. Line 7> service and PC service. For 2004 I collected around $1,200. > Spouse collected probably less than $200 this year for > occasional baby sitting, sometimes at home, but usually > elsewhere. > I know this is "other income" that needs to be taxed at the > state and federal levels. How do I report it? with the notation "HH" for money your spouse earned babysitting in the kids' own homes, Line 21 (arguably not subject to SE tax) for the remainder. Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| crlackey wrote: - quote - > I think this situation is like occasional baby sitting.
You each need to prepare a Schedule C-EZ to report the> I am retired and surviving on a small pension and SS. > Occasionally I earn extra income performing minor car > service and PC service. For 2004 I collected around $1,200. > Spouse collected probably less than $200 this year for > occasional baby sitting, sometimes at home, but usually > elsewhere. > We do not itemize deductions. > I have no trackable expenses or overhead that's obvious. > I know this is "other income" that needs to be taxed at the > state and federal levels. How do I report it? income and any expenses. That form is used if your expenses are less than $5000 for the year. As it seems that your "Net Profit" will be over $433, you also have to fill out Schedule SE for the self employment taxes due. Your wife will need the Schedule C-EZ, but not the Schedule SE. The numbers will transfer to your joint 1040 form, as directed on the Schedules. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Wife's income will go on line 21 (other income). Your income should go on a schedule C -EZ and also on a Schedule SE. The Sched. C or C-EZ will flow to line 12 on the Form 1040. The SE tax will flow to line 57 of the form 1040. Missy Doyle << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I think this situation is like occasional baby sitting. I am retired and surviving on a small pension and SS. Occasionally I earn extra income performing minor car service and PC service. For 2004 I collected around $1,200. Spouse collected probably less than $200 this year for occasional baby sitting, sometimes at home, but usually elsewhere. We do not itemize deductions. I have no trackable expenses or overhead that's obvious. I know this is "other income" that needs to be taxed at the state and federal levels. How do I report it? Carl << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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