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| I had a client who worked as a computer consultant for a friend's corporation. He earned $7800. The corp sent him a 1099 form with $78,000 in income on it. They refused to correct it. We reported the $78,000 plus the $7800 he really earned on Sch. C. We then deducted the $78,000 as 1099 issued in error. He never heard from IRS about it. I have used this technique in other instances. One former client cashed checks for her friend while she was visiting out of state. Her friend then issued a 1099 for the amount of the checks. We listed the 1099 amount on the tax return and deducted the cash provided with a note. Again no question by the IRS. I don't know what happened to the friend. Linda Dorfmont E.A., CFP, CSA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote: - quote - > "Seth Breidbart" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote:
Sure; the two sentences were in contradiction,> > David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote: > > > You report the income you received. That you received less > > > than the 1099 means you pay tax on the 1099 number. > > But that _isn't_ the income he received. It's the income > > somebody inaccurately claimed he received. > Hey it was a TYPO. I mean you did read the first sentence, > right? so I questioned it. Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| xxx[at]lighting- research.com says... - quote - > > You report the income you received. That you received less
Report the amount(s) from the Form(s) 1099 and subtract out> > than the 1099 means you pay tax on the 1099 number. > I'm sorry, but I'm confused by your answer. > If I received less income in any year than reported on the > 1099 for that year, do I pay tax on the amount received or > the amount reported on the 1099? any amount not received. Gary -- E-mail to the above address is rarely read. If you want to contact me directly, please send an e-mail to: gary at gdgoodman dot com. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Seth Breidbart" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote: - quote - > David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote:
Hey it was a TYPO. I mean you did read the first sentence,> > You report the income you received. That you received less > > than the 1099 means you pay tax on the 1099 number. > But that _isn't_ the income he received. It's the income > somebody inaccurately claimed he received. right? -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU <dwoods[at]woods-financial.com> wrote: - quote - > You report the income you received. That you received less
But that _isn't_ the income he received. It's the income> than the 1099 means you pay tax on the 1099 number. somebody inaccurately claimed he received. Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > You report the income you received. That you received less
I'm sorry, but I'm confused by your answer.> than the 1099 means you pay tax on the 1099 number. If I received less income in any year than reported on the 1099 for that year, do I pay tax on the amount received or the amount reported on the 1099? -- Vic Roberts Replace xxx with vdr in e-mail address. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> wrote: - quote - > "Paul" <TaxMan[at]negia.net> wrote:
You report the income you received. That you received less> > "MPeter" <mpeter[at]nospam.yahoo.com> wrote > > > 2004 will be the first year I have to claim self-employment > > > income for some consulting work I'm doing after hours. > > > > > I billed the client in early December for some work that was > > > done, but have been told that they will not be sending me > > > out a check until after Jan 3rd. Do I still claim this > > > income on my 2004 federal return or is it now considered > > > 2005 income? Is it based on when I receive the payment or > > > when I actually billed the client? > > Consulting is generally a cash basis activity, and as such > > you will report your income when received and your expenses > > when paid. > > > It looks like 2005 income. > > > You should have had some 2004 expenses. Report those on the > > appropriate forms and schedules and attach a note that while > > you were in an active business in 2004 and incurred expenses > > in 2004, the income was not received until January > > 2005....or something along those lines. > > > A Schedule C with expenses and no income does raise some > > concerns at the taxing agencies. > Even if you are a contractor - you may get a 1099. > If they payer wrote the check in 2004, and puts it on your > 1099 for 2004, you are kind of stuck with it in 2004, even > if you didn't get the check until 2005. This doesn't sound > like the case for you, but it can happen that way, > sometimes. than the 1099 means you pay tax on the 1099 number. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> wrote - quote - > Even if you are a contractor - you may get a 1099.
You can fix that on the return if necessary, so you aren't> If they payer wrote the check in 2004, and puts it on your > 1099 for 2004, you are kind of stuck with it in 2004, even > if you didn't get the check until 2005. This doesn't sound > like the case for you, but it can happen that way, > sometimes. "stuck" with it. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> wrote: - quote - > If they payer wrote the check in 2004, and puts it on your
I had this happen once and my accountant told me to record> 1099 for 2004, you are kind of stuck with it in 2004, even > if you didn't get the check until 2005. This doesn't sound > like the case for you, but it can happen that way, > sometimes. the payment on the tax year received and ignore the 1099. I guess if I got audited I might have to convince the IRS that, based on the date of the check it could not possibly have been received by me in the tax year indicated on the 1099. -- Vic Roberts Replace xxx with vdr in e-mail address. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Paul" <TaxMan[at]negia.net> wrote: - quote - > "MPeter" <mpeter[at]nospam.yahoo.com> wrote
Even if you are a contractor - you may get a 1099.> > 2004 will be the first year I have to claim self-employment > > income for some consulting work I'm doing after hours. > > > I billed the client in early December for some work that was > > done, but have been told that they will not be sending me > > out a check until after Jan 3rd. Do I still claim this > > income on my 2004 federal return or is it now considered > > 2005 income? Is it based on when I receive the payment or > > when I actually billed the client? > Consulting is generally a cash basis activity, and as such > you will report your income when received and your expenses > when paid. > It looks like 2005 income. > You should have had some 2004 expenses. Report those on the > appropriate forms and schedules and attach a note that while > you were in an active business in 2004 and incurred expenses > in 2004, the income was not received until January > 2005....or something along those lines. > A Schedule C with expenses and no income does raise some > concerns at the taxing agencies. If they payer wrote the check in 2004, and puts it on your 1099 for 2004, you are kind of stuck with it in 2004, even if you didn't get the check until 2005. This doesn't sound like the case for you, but it can happen that way, sometimes. [I got a check, on 1/3/05 that was dated 12/30/04 -- I do enough business with this client that I am sure I will get a 1099, and they will be expensing that payment to me in 2004, bet your bottom dollar.] << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Thank you all for the response and helpful advice. I didn't receive the check from the client until today, so I will have to claim it on my 2005 return. Mike << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| MPeter wrote: - quote - > 2004 will be the first year I have to claim self-employment
If you're a cash basis taxpayer, and most people are, then> income for some consulting work I'm doing after hours. > I billed the client in early December for some work that was > done, but have been told that they will not be sending me > out a check until after Jan 3rd. Do I still claim this > income on my 2004 federal return or is it now considered > 2005 income? Is it based on when I receive the payment or > when I actually billed the client? it's 2005 income. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Mon, 3 Jan 2005 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Mike, It depends on whether you are on the cash or accrual basis. If you're a sole proprietor with a service business like consulting and no employees... ie. pretty straightforward... you'll probably be on a cash basis. This means income is recognized when received, not billed. I defer to professional accountants<g jo << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "MPeter" <mpeter[at]nospam.yahoo.com> wrote - quote - > 2004 will be the first year I have to claim self-employment
Consulting is generally a cash basis activity, and as such> income for some consulting work I'm doing after hours. > I billed the client in early December for some work that was > done, but have been told that they will not be sending me > out a check until after Jan 3rd. Do I still claim this > income on my 2004 federal return or is it now considered > 2005 income? Is it based on when I receive the payment or > when I actually billed the client? you will report your income when received and your expenses when paid. It looks like 2005 income. You should have had some 2004 expenses. Report those on the appropriate forms and schedules and attach a note that while you were in an active business in 2004 and incurred expenses in 2004, the income was not received until January 2005....or something along those lines. A Schedule C with expenses and no income does raise some concerns at the taxing agencies. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| You claim the income the year you receive it. If you are like some of us tax pros, if you do *not* receive it, you do *not* claim it as income. Missy Doyle << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| 2004 will be the first year I have to claim self-employment income for some consulting work I'm doing after hours. I billed the client in early December for some work that was done, but have been told that they will not be sending me out a check until after Jan 3rd. Do I still claim this income on my 2004 federal return or is it now considered 2005 income? Is it based on when I receive the payment or when I actually billed the client? Thanks in advance. Mike << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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