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Old 12-31-2004, 02:29 PM
Tom Healy
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> Ok everyone, I need some help. I have an elderly client who
> has been forced to take a lump sum distribution from a
> deferred comp account. He is 78 years old. He does not
> need the money right now but would like to do something with
> it to keep from taking a large tax hit this year. I have
> been told by a financial advisor that the 70 1/2 limitation
> for contributions to traditional IRAs does not apply to
> rollovers. If so, then this is obviously what I will
> recommend. Making sure we set up withdrawals to meet the
> RMD. I have searched the IRS site and other resources, but
> can find nothing that addresses this specifically. Can
> anyone point me to some documentation for allowing this or
> prohibiting this specifically?


Does he qualify to use the lump sum averaging? And if so,
is the hit still a big one? Remember that someone will need
to pay the tax on the income from the deferred comp either
now or when it is ultimately withdrawn from the IRA. so you
need to consider the income of heirs at the time your client
dies in addition to estate tax possibilities.

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Old 12-29-2004, 02:09 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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RAYMOND MORGAN wrote:

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> Ok everyone, I need some help. I have an elderly client who
> has been forced to take a lump sum distribution from a
> deferred comp account.


First of all, what do you mean by "deferred comp account."
Is that already some kind of retirement account? Or just
plain old ordinary income? If the former, what kind of
account? 401 k? 403 b?

(rest snipped until we know about this.)

Happy New ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 12-29-2004, 01:31 PM
Barry Picker
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"RAYMOND MORGAN" <raymond.morgan[at]worldnet.att.net> wrote:

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> Ok everyone, I need some help. I have an elderly client who
> has been forced to take a lump sum distribution from a
> deferred comp account. He is 78 years old. He does not
> need the money right now but would like to do something with
> it to keep from taking a large tax hit this year. I have
> been told by a financial advisor that the 70 1/2 limitation
> for contributions to traditional IRAs does not apply to
> rollovers. If so, then this is obviously what I will
> recommend. Making sure we set up withdrawals to meet the
> RMD. I have searched the IRS site and other resources, but
> can find nothing that addresses this specifically. Can
> anyone point me to some documentation for allowing this or
> prohibiting this specifically?


The problem comes down to what you mean in this specific
case of "deferred comp account". If this account is a
QUALIFIED PLAN, then you can do the rollover to an IRA. If
it is a nonqualified deferred comp plan, then no rollover is
permitted.

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Old 12-29-2004, 01:12 PM
Helen P. OPlanick EA
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> Ok everyone, I need some help. I have an elderly client who
> has been forced to take a lump sum distribution from a
> deferred comp account. He is 78 years old. He does not
> need the money right now but would like to do something with
> it to keep from taking a large tax hit this year. I have
> been told by a financial advisor that the 70 1/2 limitation
> for contributions to traditional IRAs does not apply to
> rollovers. If so, then this is obviously what I will
> recommend. Making sure we set up withdrawals to meet the
> RMD. I have searched the IRS site and other resources, but
> can find nothing that addresses this specifically. Can
> anyone point me to some documentation for allowing this or
> prohibiting this specifically?


As long as he takes his RMD, he can roll the rest over, no
problem.

Helen, EA in PA
Director, NAEA; Immediate Past President, PSEA; Tax Expert, AOL
Enrolled Agents - THE Tax Professionals

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Old 12-28-2004, 08:00 PM
RAYMOND MORGAN
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Default IRA Rollover Question

Ok everyone, I need some help. I have an elderly client who
has been forced to take a lump sum distribution from a
deferred comp account. He is 78 years old. He does not
need the money right now but would like to do something with
it to keep from taking a large tax hit this year. I have
been told by a financial advisor that the 70 1/2 limitation
for contributions to traditional IRAs does not apply to
rollovers. If so, then this is obviously what I will
recommend. Making sure we set up withdrawals to meet the
RMD. I have searched the IRS site and other resources, but
can find nothing that addresses this specifically. Can
anyone point me to some documentation for allowing this or
prohibiting this specifically?

Kathy Morgan

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