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Old 01-10-2005, 12:04 AM
Seth Breidbart
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> Unless, of course, you use the 1904 date system, although
> I have no idea why anyone would do such a thing.


1900 wasn't a leap year. Some Microsoft programmers didn't
know that, and got dates confused.

Seth

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Old 01-02-2005, 09:22 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Herb Smith wrote:
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> Harlan Lunsford wrote:
> > Don Priebe wrote:


> > > [1] Question 1: Explain the difference between precision and
> > > accuracy.


> > Okay, I give up. what IS the difference?


> Think of it this way, Harlan. A "sharpshooter" who can shoot
> a tight grouping (very precise), but just keeps hitting the
> target one lane over (not very accurate) :-)


Ah yes. I was sure someone would 'Hit the Target", just as
I did when I sent my donation to Salvation Army.

Happy New ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford

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Old 01-02-2005, 08:05 PM
Stuart Bronstein
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Default Re: Sales Tax Tables are very precise!

Herb Smith wrote:

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> Think of it this way, Harlan. A "sharpshooter" who can shoot
> a tight grouping (very precise), but just keeps hitting the
> target one lane over (not very accurate) :-)


*lol*

Stu

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Old 01-02-2005, 07:27 PM
Tom Healy
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Default Re: Sales Tax Tables are very precise!

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> Unless, of course, you use the 1904 date system, although
> I have no idea why anyone would do such a thing.


Actually, those of us with Macs normally use the 1904 date
system.

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Old 12-31-2004, 02:10 PM
Seth Breidbart
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Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Don Priebe wrote:

> > [1] Question 1: Explain the difference between precision
> > and accuracy.


> Okay, I give up. what IS the difference?


Precision is how many decimal places something is quoted to.

Accuracy is how many of them are correct.

Seth

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Old 12-31-2004, 01:51 PM
Herb Smith
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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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> Don Priebe wrote:

> > [1] Question 1: Explain the difference between precision and
> > accuracy.


> Okay, I give up. what IS the difference?


Think of it this way, Harlan. A "sharpshooter" who can shoot
a tight grouping (very precise), but just keeps hitting the
target one lane over (not very accurate) :-)

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Old 12-31-2004, 01:51 PM
Stuart Bronstein
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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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> Don Priebe wrote:

> > [1] Question 1: Explain the difference between precision and
> > accuracy.


> Okay, I give up. what IS the difference?


Well, for one you can be precise without being accurate.
For example, did you realize that 47.823 percent of all
statistics are made up on the spot?

That statement is very precise, but completely inaccurate.

Stu

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Old 12-31-2004, 01:51 PM
Frederick Jorden
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Phoebe Roberts, EA wrote:
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> Don Priebe wrote:

> > If you look at Pub 600 on the web, you will see a small icon
> > on page 5 that will allow you to download the tables as an
> > Excel file.


> Ooh, I missed that! That's exactly what I need - now I can
> add in the "Tulsa City, Tulsa County," "Broken Arrow City,
> Tulsa County," and "Broken Arrow City, Wagoner County"
> gross-ups without having to re-key. Thanks!


> > [1] Question 1: Explain the difference between precision
> > and accuracy.


> It doesn't matter how precisely you calculate your client's
> tax liability if you don't calculate it accurately.


An approximate calculation of the right theory is worth more
than a precise calculation of the wrong theory!

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Old 12-29-2004, 02:09 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Don Priebe wrote:

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> If you look at Pub 600 on the web, you will see a small icon
> on page 5 that will allow you to download the tables as an
> Excel file. At first blush the downloaded version looks
> exactly like the printed version. However, if you expand the
> column widths you will see that the printed value has been
> rounded to the nearest dollar. The actual values in the
> table must have been calculated with extreme difficulty, as
> they are VERY precise.[1]
> Example: New York State, $20K-$30K, 3 exemptions.
> Printed Value $378
> Actual Value from table $377.786887204531


Looks like somebody used the DBL function in programming.
as in DEF DBL a(x). something like that.

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> And some people say the tables are not realistic!

No wonder some people refer to accountants as anal retentive.

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> [1] Question 1: Explain the difference between precision and accuracy.

Okay, I give up. what IS the difference?

Happy New ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford

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Old 12-29-2004, 01:11 PM
Phoebe Roberts, EA
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Don Priebe wrote:

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> If you look at Pub 600 on the web, you will see a small icon
> on page 5 that will allow you to download the tables as an
> Excel file.


Just as a side note, if you download the table then add
something with dates, you'll also want to go into Options
and uncheck the "Use 1904 date system" box. It took me over
an hour to figure out why, when I pasted my state sales tax
chart (which shows the date each rate goes into effect,
which you need to calculate the average rate in effect
during the year) into that workbook, 1/1/2003 suddenly
became 1/2/2008.

Unless, of course, you use the 1904 date system, although I
have no idea why anyone would do such a thing.

Phoebe *having a stupid day*

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Old 12-29-2004, 01:11 PM
Phoebe Roberts, EA
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Default Re: Sales Tax Tables are very precise!

Don Priebe wrote:

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> If you look at Pub 600 on the web, you will see a small icon
> on page 5 that will allow you to download the tables as an
> Excel file.


Ooh, I missed that! That's exactly what I need - now I can
add in the "Tulsa City, Tulsa County," "Broken Arrow City,
Tulsa County," and "Broken Arrow City, Wagoner County"
gross-ups without having to re-key. Thanks!

- quote -

> [1] Question 1: Explain the difference between precision
> and accuracy.


It doesn't matter how precisely you calculate your client's
tax liability if you don't calculate it accurately.

Phoebe

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Old 12-28-2004, 07:02 PM
Don Priebe
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Default Sales Tax Tables are very precise!

If you look at Pub 600 on the web, you will see a small icon
on page 5 that will allow you to download the tables as an
Excel file. At first blush the downloaded version looks
exactly like the printed version. However, if you expand the
column widths you will see that the printed value has been
rounded to the nearest dollar. The actual values in the
table must have been calculated with extreme difficulty, as
they are VERY precise.[1]

Example: New York State, $20K-$30K, 3 exemptions.

Printed Value $378

Actual Value from table $377.786887204531

And some people say the tables are not realistic!

--
Don EA in Upstate NY

[1] Question 1: Explain the difference between precision and accuracy.

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