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| Don Priebe wrote: - quote - > > > The table amount in my case seems to be about 57% of what I
Interesting idea there, using statistical sampling> > > actually paid. > > Ah, so you keep all your receipts, Don? > > > You DID keep all your receipts, didn't you? (grin) > It's fairly easy to reasonably reconstruct the amount of > sales tax that you paid during the year if you have been > using Quicken or equivalent to track your expenditures. My > only gray area was food. That category included all grocery > store purchases - both actual food (non-taxed) and other > items such as soap and soda pop which are taxed. Sampling a > month's worth of register tapes gives a handle on that. techniques to estimate actual sales tax. It would be interesting to see if an IRS auditor/examiner would accept such in the absence of what "they" call for, i.e. actual receipts. If one of my clients might be tempted to use such estimates, I would be pained to ask him if he had considered the fact that some of his food purchases might have been made across the river in Georgia, where there is no state sales tax on food (but there is local tax of 3%). After all, he probably didn't buy all his food over there. - quote - > I keep records, not receipts. I know what Pub 600 says; I
Yep, and that is why I keep receipts for three years,> don't know what the regulations say. business receipts that is. Personal receipts, no, cause after all, I don't itemize on federal return. - quote - > < Looks like a white Christmas up here! Hey Don, better you than me. My wife left me. (bad news) It was last Thursday. (I feel a country song coming on.) But.... it was just to visit son, family and grandkids for Christmas. she's coming back (good news (or bad news?)) tomorrow. Maybe fifteen years ago we visited daughter up near Cincernata, and froze! So I vowed never again to go north of Mason Dixon lline during winter time. Happy New ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > The table amount in my case seems to be about 57% of what I
It's fairly easy to reasonably reconstruct the amount of> > actually paid. > Ah, so you keep all your receipts, Don? > You DID keep all your receipts, didn't you? (grin) sales tax that you paid during the year if you have been using Quicken or equivalent to track your expenditures. My only gray area was food. That category included all grocery store purchases - both actual food (non-taxed) and other items such as soap and soda pop which are taxed. Sampling a month's worth of register tapes gives a handle on that. I keep records, not receipts. I know what Pub 600 says; I don't know what the regulations say. < Looks like a white Christmas up here! -- Don EA in Upstate NY << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Don Priebe wrote: - quote - > > Am I missing something here or are the amounts in their
Ah, so you keep all your receipts, Don?> > tables WAY too low? How can someone earning over $100,000 in > > TX (at 8.00% state sales tax) pay only about $1,000 in sales > > taxes for the year? If I pay sales taxes on only a quarter > > of this income, it is still twice this much! Can somebody > > clue me in on this? > The table amount in my case seems to be about 57% of what I > actually paid. You DID keep all your receipts, didn't you? (grin anyway, MERRY Christmas, Y'all Harlan Lunsford << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > rburns[at]texas.net wrote:
Not to mention that not all payments amount to taxable> > Am I missing something here or are the amounts in their > > tables WAY too low? How can someone earning over $100,000 in > > TX (at 8.00% state sales tax) pay only about $1,000 in sales > > taxes for the year? If I pay sales taxes on only a quarter > > of this income, it is still twice this much! Can somebody > > clue me in on this? > These are optional tables one may use in the absence of > having receipts to back up what was actually spent. > there may be some people who make AND spend every dollar of > 100,000, but in the main they don't. Also those tables only > take into effect state sales tax, and may be adjusted for > local sales taxes. sales. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| rburns[at]texas.net wrote: - quote - > Am I missing something here or are the amounts in their
These are optional tables one may use in the absence of> tables WAY too low? How can someone earning over $100,000 in > TX (at 8.00% state sales tax) pay only about $1,000 in sales > taxes for the year? If I pay sales taxes on only a quarter > of this income, it is still twice this much! Can somebody > clue me in on this? having receipts to back up what was actually spent. there may be some people who make AND spend every dollar of 100,000, but in the main they don't. Also those tables only take into effect state sales tax, and may be adjusted for local sales taxes. Merry Christmas, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:31:59 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| rburns[at]texas.net wrote: - quote - > Am I missing something here or are the amounts in their
In that case, you are permitted to determine the amount> tables WAY too low? How can someone earning over $100,000 in > TX (at 8.00% state sales tax) pay only about $1,000 in sales > taxes for the year? If I pay sales taxes on only a quarter > of this income, it is still twice this much! Can somebody > clue me in on this? based on your actual expenses (assuming that you have records of same). Also note that the tables only reflect the STATE portion of the tax. If your state allows localities to tack on local rates, you need to use the worksheet in Pub 600 to come up with the appropriate total amount. In my case, I've "guessed" the table amount to be about 85% of what I actually spent (WA state). I am curious as to what others have concluded in this regard, as it probably isn't worth going to much effort to "document" the difference if it is only in the neighborhood of about 15%. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| rburns[at]texas.net wrote: - quote - > Am I missing something here or are the amounts in their
According to> tables WAY too low? How can someone earning over $100,000 in > TX (at 8.00% state sales tax) pay only about $1,000 in sales > taxes for the year? http://www.window.state.tx.us/taxinfo/sales/index.html, the Texas state sales tax rate is 6.25%, which translates to $16,000 in sales taxable purchases in a year. That's a pretty good amount of taxable purchases for one person. If your total rate is 8%, you get to add an additional [(8-6.25)/6.25]=28% to the table amount. So if your table amount is exactly $1,000, your sales tax deduction would be $1,280. I live in Oklahoma, a state which has an income tax, and my combined state and local sales tax rate is 10% (which applies to everything but prescription drugs and services), so I don't feel too sorry for you. ![]() My sales tax deduction (on much much less income) is about $1,200, which is probably more than I actually spend on sales tax, so IMHO the tables are overly generous. Phoebe ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Am I missing something here or are the amounts in their
The table amount in my case seems to be about 57% of what I> tables WAY too low? How can someone earning over $100,000 in > TX (at 8.00% state sales tax) pay only about $1,000 in sales > taxes for the year? If I pay sales taxes on only a quarter > of this income, it is still twice this much! Can somebody > clue me in on this? actually paid. -- Don EA in Upstate NY << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "rburns[at]texas.net" <rburns[at]texas.net> wrote: - quote - > Am I missing something here or are the amounts in their
Many of the things you spend the most money on probably> tables WAY too low? How can someone earning over $100,000 in > TX (at 8.00% state sales tax) pay only about $1,000 in sales > taxes for the year? If I pay sales taxes on only a quarter > of this income, it is still twice this much! Can somebody > clue me in on this? don't charge sales tax. For instance, your mortgage or rent, your car payments, medical expenses, and utilities. Does Texas have sales tax on groceries (in Mass we have "meal tax", so you pay tax at restaurants, but not when you buy individual items at supermarkets)? Take a look at your budget and figure out how many of your expenses are taxable? Anyway, if the table doesn't match your circumstances, you can keep your receipts and use the actual sales tax you paid. This is similar to the standard deduction, which is too low for most homeowners. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Am I missing something here or are the amounts in their tables WAY too low? How can someone earning over $100,000 in TX (at 8.00% state sales tax) pay only about $1,000 in sales taxes for the year? If I pay sales taxes on only a quarter of this income, it is still twice this much! Can somebody clue me in on this? Thanks, Ross << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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