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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > Travis Jordan wrote:
All this is unclear. What I think is happening is this. The> > My Florida county's property taxes are due January 1, 2004. > > However, they are subject to a 1% discount if the envelope > > containing the payment is postmarked on or before December > > 31. > > > If I post-date a check to January 2, 2004 incorporating the > > 1% discount and drop it in the mail on December 31st, can I > > take the deduction in 2004, or must I take it in 2003? > Well, I THINK that 2003 is kinda out of the question. > But to make sure you can take the deduction for tax year > 2004, make sure you date the check before end of year also. > After all, you did say you're mailing it before midnight > 12/31, right? And you woudn't want to write a bad check, > right? questioner is taking the standard deduction in '04 and is planning to itemize in '05. What he is trying to do is get the discount for having his payment postmarked in '04, but preserving the deduction for '05. No responder clearly answered the question. IMO the answer is yes. The county only cares about the postmark. If they actually got the check in '04, technically it would not be negotiable. (I had a friend who tried to cash his paycheck [dated Wednesday] on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving.) Therefore, the deduction is for '05 which is what the taxpayer wants. -- To e-mail me get rid of the cats and dogs. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| wrote: - quote - > IMHO it doesn't matter when the check was mailed -- at least
Why not? I've seen banks accept checks that weren't even> for income tax purposes. Since I don't know anything about > Florida property taxes, I can't speak to the discount issue. > If the check had been dated 12/31/03, it would have been a > 2003 deduction. By dating the check 1/2/04, though, it > becomes a 2004 deduction. Because of the post dating, even > if the property tax people had received the check, they > could not cash it. signed; how likely are they to try to read semi-legible scribbling in the date field? - quote - > The funds in the account only became available in 2004,
That wasn't specified. (Even if that's when a deposit hit,there might have been a line of credit with the account, so the transfer was available; the reason to avoid the check hitting in 2003 was to avoid the fee for the line of credit.) Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Travis Jordan wrote: - quote - > My Florida county's property taxes are due January 1, 2004.
Well, I THINK that 2003 is kinda out of the question.> However, they are subject to a 1% discount if the envelope > containing the payment is postmarked on or before December > 31. > If I post-date a check to January 2, 2004 incorporating the > 1% discount and drop it in the mail on December 31st, can I > take the deduction in 2004, or must I take it in 2003? But to make sure you can take the deduction for tax year 2004, make sure you date the check before end of year also. After all, you did say you're mailing it before midnight 12/31, right? And you woudn't want to write a bad check, right? Merry Christmas, Y'all. Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Travis Jordan wrote: - quote - > My Florida county's property taxes are due January 1, 2004.
IMHO it doesn't matter when the check was mailed -- at least> However, they are subject to a 1% discount if the envelope > containing the payment is postmarked on or before December > 31. > If I post-date a check to January 2, 2004 incorporating the > 1% discount and drop it in the mail on December 31st, can I > take the deduction in 2004, or must I take it in 2003? for income tax purposes. Since I don't know anything about Florida property taxes, I can't speak to the discount issue. If the check had been dated 12/31/03, it would have been a 2003 deduction. By dating the check 1/2/04, though, it becomes a 2004 deduction. Because of the post dating, even if the property tax people had received the check, they could not cash it. The funds in the account only became available in 2004, there was no transfer of funds in 2003. Therefor, the deduction is not available until 2004. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| no.one[at]no.net (Travis=A0Jordan) posted: - quote - > My Florida county's property taxes are due
It doesn't matter when you date the check. If you mail it> January 1, 2004. However, they are subject to > a 1% discount if the envelope containing the > payment is postmarked on or before > December 31. > If I post-date a check to January 2, 2004 > incorporating the 1% discount and drop it in > the mail on December 31st, can I take the > deduction in 2004, or must I take it in 2003? with a postmark by December 31, you should qualify for the discount. Since the mail will not be delivered until January 2 -- at the earliest -- the check cannot possibly clear from your account until next year. So go ahead and date it December 31 (or even 29 or 30) ... so long as you legally mail it with the 12-31 postmark, you should earn the discount benefit. Bill << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My Florida county's property taxes are due January 1, 2004. However, they are subject to a 1% discount if the envelope containing the payment is postmarked on or before December 31. If I post-date a check to January 2, 2004 incorporating the 1% discount and drop it in the mail on December 31st, can I take the deduction in 2004, or must I take it in 2003? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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