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Old 12-14-2004, 02:15 AM
Nan Eklund
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Default Re: Capital Assets for Businesses on Cash Basis

As soon as you are liable for the full cost, you can claim
the full cost. But as Harlan said, think about future
earnings. Do you want to spread the cost out to benefit you
in future years?

Nan, EA in LA
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Old 12-11-2004, 01:22 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Will wrote:

- quote -

> A corporation on the cash basis of accounting cannot claim
> an expense until the money is spent (e.g., paid in full by
> check, wire transfer/cash, or credit card). But what about
> capital assets that are depreciated? If a business buys a
> $150K capital asset in 2004, but only puts down $15K in
> cash, can the business claim the full depreciation allowed
> on the $150K asset? In other words, is fixed assets an
> exception to the normal cash rules for cash-basis
> businesses? I assume that you cannot take the Section 179
> benefit and expense the asset for anything above what is
> paid in 2004. But what about the 50% bonus depreciation
> and the normal depreciation?


If you bought it and placed it in service before the end of
the year, and even though you owe on it, it's yours and you
may enjoy all the tax benefits inherent therein. (Did I
say that? sounds like a lawyer!)

However, on a practical note, plan carefully on how much
depreciation you do take, since to take too much in the
first year might just waste valuable benefits in coming
years.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 12-11-2004, 12:43 AM
John H. Fisher
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Default Re: Capital Assets for Businesses on Cash Basis

- quote -

> A corporation on the cash basis of accounting cannot claim
> an expense until the money is spent (e.g., paid in full by
> check, wire transfer/cash, or credit card). But what about
> capital assets that are depreciated? If a business buys a
> $150K capital asset in 2004, but only puts down $15K in
> cash, can the business claim the full depreciation allowed
> on the $150K asset? In other words, is fixed assets an
> exception to the normal cash rules for cash-basis
> businesses? I assume that you cannot take the Section 179
> benefit and expense the asset for anything above what is
> paid in 2004. But what about the 50% bonus depreciation
> and the normal depreciation?


You may take the 179 expense, and use any other reductions,
up to the allowable amount. That you made the purchase with
credit makes no difference.

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Old 12-06-2004, 08:10 AM
Will
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Default Capital Assets for Businesses on Cash Basis

A corporation on the cash basis of accounting cannot claim
an expense until the money is spent (e.g., paid in full by
check, wire transfer/cash, or credit card). But what about
capital assets that are depreciated? If a business buys a
$150K capital asset in 2004, but only puts down $15K in
cash, can the business claim the full depreciation allowed
on the $150K asset? In other words, is fixed assets an
exception to the normal cash rules for cash-basis
businesses? I assume that you cannot take the Section 179
benefit and expense the asset for anything above what is
paid in 2004. But what about the 50% bonus depreciation
and the normal depreciation?

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