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| MTW wrote: - quote - > California requires you to use the same filing status on
I believe you're correct. Sorry about that.> your California return as you used on your federal return. > There are two exceptions to this requirement: > - One spouse was an active duty military member. > - One spouse was a nonresident for the entire year and had > no income from California sources during the tax year. > For more information get FTB Publication 1031, Guidelines > for Determining Resident Status. > Note: The second exception above does not apply if the > spouse with California source income is domiciled in a > community property state, unless the income is separate > income. > ----- > I believe the "note" covers our situation. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Slight correction, Art: if the nonresident spouse is DOMICILED in a separate property state, then his or her earnings are not community income. The division of income between spouses is determined by the laws of their state of domicile, not residence. Residence for tax purposes is not the same thing as domicile. In the OP's situation it appeared that both spouses were domiciled in Texas. Even if the spouse working in California was a California resident (because she was employed in a position that could last permanently or indefinitely), she would still be domiciled in Texas. Again, assuming the spouses are not estranged and she has not moved to California with the intent of making a permanent home there. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > I should have read the other messages first. Katie was
I don't believe that quite was what she said. Hopefully she> more specific as to California law. In particular, if > the non-resident spouse does not reside in a community > property state, then the wage income of the CA spouse > is not sourced to the non-CA spouse for CA tax purposes. will comment further. Meanwhile, here is an excerpt from FTB Pub 1051A: ----- California requires you to use the same filing status on your California return as you used on your federal return. There are two exceptions to this requirement: - One spouse was an active duty military member. - One spouse was a nonresident for the entire year and had no income from California sources during the tax year. For more information get FTB Publication 1031, Guidelines for Determining Resident Status. Note: The second exception above does not apply if the spouse with California source income is domiciled in a community property state, unless the income is separate income. ----- I believe the "note" covers our situation. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Katie wrote: - quote - > D. Stussy wrote:
.....But as both spouses are absent from their state of> > Mani wrote: > > > My primary residence is in Texas but due to my nature of > > > work I lived almost 6 months in NJ. My wife work in CA. > > > Since we live apart she travel monthly once to NJ and stay > > > in my temporary rented home. Will these travel expenses come > > > under deductions/exemptions? > > No. However, if she is in the situation where she is > > TEMPORARILY employed in CA, and thus can claim her > > duplication of expenses while in CA, she can deduct the > > LESSER of the expense she would incur in CA or the travel. > > > Which filing status is good for me to either MFJ or MFS as > > > she earns little lower than me. > > MFS will probably be mandated in CA and NJ as only one > > spouse is actually there and neither is necessarily a > > permanent resident. Federally and for Texas, it will be > > your choice. > > > However, watch for changes in "tax home." > Correction for California: if they file a joint federal > return, they MUST file jointly for California, unless (a) at > least one spouse is active duty military, or (b) one spouse > is a full- or part-year resident and the other is a > full-year nonresident and has no California source income. > Since this couple's domicile appears to be in Texas, which > is a community property state, half of the wife's California > earnings belong to the husband, so he does have California > source income. As a result, they will not meet the > exception above. residence and are NOT together, is there really an intermingling of finances that leads to a "continued" community - so as to impose the sourcing you describe above? I see the clear possibility of the disregarded community under IRC 66. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| MTW wrote: - quote - > Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
I should have read the other messages first. Katie was> > Wrong as to CA. MFS is allowed for CA even if Federally > > filing MFJ, if the other spouse has no CA income. > Since CA is a community property state, it would be a neat > trick for the other spouse to have NO income that is sourced > to CA. more specific as to California law. In particular, if the non-resident spouse does not reside in a community property state, then the wage income of the CA spouse is not sourced to the non-CA spouse for CA tax purposes. - quote - > Second thought: Maybe this situation would apply as a
Katie mentioned this as a separate exception, as well.> special rule to military couples??? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| MTW wrote: - quote - > Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
It's the way the law is written. I suppose it's possible> > Wrong as to CA. MFS is allowed for CA even if Federally > > filing MFJ, if the other spouse has no CA income. > Since CA is a community property state, it would be a neat > trick for the other spouse to have NO income that is sourced > to CA. for the CA spouse to have separate investment income only. But perhaps CA allows the taxpayers to disregard community property law for the purpose of this election, which would make it more common. I'm working from the law and publications, not the regulations. - quote - > Second thought: Maybe this situation would apply as a
There's a related exception to the MFJ/MFS for military> special rule to military couples??? couples, but it's not the one I was referring to. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > Wrong as to CA. MFS is allowed for CA even if Federally
Since CA is a community property state, it would be a neat> filing MFJ, if the other spouse has no CA income. trick for the other spouse to have NO income that is sourced to CA. This would probably be the case only if NEITHER spouse had any income, in which case the question of tax filings is kind of "moot." <grin Second thought: Maybe this situation would apply as a special rule to military couples??? MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > Mani wrote:
Correction for California: if they file a joint federal> > My primary residence is in Texas but due to my nature of > > work I lived almost 6 months in NJ. My wife work in CA. > > Since we live apart she travel monthly once to NJ and stay > > in my temporary rented home. Will these travel expenses come > > under deductions/exemptions? > No. However, if she is in the situation where she is > TEMPORARILY employed in CA, and thus can claim her > duplication of expenses while in CA, she can deduct the > LESSER of the expense she would incur in CA or the travel. > > Which filing status is good for me to either MFJ or MFS as > > she earns little lower than me. > MFS will probably be mandated in CA and NJ as only one > spouse is actually there and neither is necessarily a > permanent resident. Federally and for Texas, it will be > your choice. > However, watch for changes in "tax home." return, they MUST file jointly for California, unless (a) at least one spouse is active duty military, or (b) one spouse is a full- or part-year resident and the other is a full-year nonresident and has no California source income. Since this couple's domicile appears to be in Texas, which is a community property state, half of the wife's California earnings belong to the husband, so he does have California source income. As a result, they will not meet the exception above. If the wife's California employment is temporary, she probably is not a California resident. However, if she is employed in an open-ended, common-law employment situation, she is a resident from the date she entered the state to take up that employment. In either case, the couple should file a joint return on Form 540NR unless they file separate federal returns. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > Mani wrote:
Wrong as to CA. MFS is allowed for CA even if Federally> > Which filing status is good for me to either MFJ or MFS as > > she earns little lower than me. > MFS will probably be mandated in CA and NJ as only one > spouse is actually there and neither is necessarily a > permanent resident. filing MFJ, if the other spouse has no CA income. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Mani wrote: - quote - > My primary residence is in Texas but due to my nature of
No. However, if she is in the situation where she is> work I lived almost 6 months in NJ. My wife work in CA. > Since we live apart she travel monthly once to NJ and stay > in my temporary rented home. Will these travel expenses come > under deductions/exemptions? TEMPORARILY employed in CA, and thus can claim her duplication of expenses while in CA, she can deduct the LESSER of the expense she would incur in CA or the travel. - quote - > Which filing status is good for me to either MFJ or MFS as
MFS will probably be mandated in CA and NJ as only one> she earns little lower than me. spouse is actually there and neither is necessarily a permanent resident. Federally and for Texas, it will be your choice. However, watch for changes in "tax home." << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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None.> work I lived almost 6 months in NJ. My wife work in CA. > Since we live apart she travel monthly once to NJ and stay > in my temporary rented home. Will these travel expenses come > under deductions/exemptions? Helen, EA in PA Director, NAEA; Immediate Past President, PSEA; Tax Expert, AOL Enrolled Agents - THE Tax Professionals << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| My primary residence is in Texas but due to my nature of work I lived almost 6 months in NJ. My wife work in CA. Since we live apart she travel monthly once to NJ and stay in my temporary rented home. Will these travel expenses come under deductions/exemptions? Which filing status is good for me to either MFJ or MFS as she earns little lower than me. Thanks Mani << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |