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If your income is below the Roth IRA limit, that is a better> respect to the question of better returns - for the exact > same kind of stock/bonds mix investment: > 1) 401K, > 2) non-deductible IRA, > 3) non IRA investment account > Both capital gains and dividends are now taxed at a max 15% > rate (will apply to #3 above) > Income tax can be 28% or higher, and applies to all funds in > #1 above, and all gains in #2 above. > Does this make #1 and #2 obsolete now, and so we should keep > our money in #3? > #1 still seems it might be better in the long run since > pre-tax money is used, and compounding of that money each > year might be better. > #2 seems not that useful - the initial deposit is taxed, > only the gains compound tax free yearly. > I understand that this is a very tricky question, so please > feel free to reply adding any assumptions you want to make, > if a general reply is not possible. choice than #2, since all earnings inside a Roth are tax-free, not tax-deferred. Right now, the non-IRA investment may well be the best choice; however, tax laws can change (there was a time not so long ago when all long-term capital gains were taxed at 28% unless you were in a lower tax bracket). If you are in a 15% or lower tax bracket, and you have IRA balances, you could convert some or all of the IRA to a Roth; then even if your tax rate increases in the future, you've got some investments in a tax-free account. -- Thomas E Healy, CPA, PC 1650 38th St., Ste 202W Boulder, CO 80301 Please send email to: tom[at]tomhealycpa.com, since I block all email at my newsgroup address. phone (303) 443-1804 fax (720) 489-3772 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I am trying to figure out if there are easy heuristics with respect to the question of better returns - for the exact same kind of stock/bonds mix investment: 1) 401K, 2) non-deductible IRA, 3) non IRA investment account Both capital gains and dividends are now taxed at a max 15% rate (will apply to #3 above) Income tax can be 28% or higher, and applies to all funds in #1 above, and all gains in #2 above. Does this make #1 and #2 obsolete now, and so we should keep our money in #3? #1 still seems it might be better in the long run since pre-tax money is used, and compounding of that money each year might be better. #2 seems not that useful - the initial deposit is taxed, only the gains compound tax free yearly. I understand that this is a very tricky question, so please feel free to reply adding any assumptions you want to make, if a general reply is not possible. Thanks! << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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