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"Prop. 58" is in the R&TC somewhere around section 7750 (as> > As for HOW to notify the state that this is what you have > > done, the only situation I have seen is for a prop. 58 > > parent-child transfer. In that case, one simply files a > > form with the recording of the deed to the county recorder's > > office (or later, to the county assessor's office to > > challenge the supplemental tax billing). I suspect that > > there may be a similar procedure for your type of transfer > > of tax basis. > Please provide more information about Prop 58 if you can, it > sounds like it could apply to my situation. What if the > parent is recently deceased and the child is combined with > brother and sisters in a trust arrangement? Can you still > use Prop 58 to do parent-child transfer (i.e., only to one > child)? I recall). California statutes are on-line and searchable via the State Secretary's web site. It does not matter if the parent is living or deceased as long as the parent was the prior owner of record and the child is the new owner. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| arol.cope[at]verizon.net wrote: - quote - > D. Stussy wrote:
Complete details for Prop 58 and 193 are at:> > As for HOW to notify the state that this is what you have > > done, the only situation I have seen is for a prop. 58 > > parent-child transfer. In that case, one simply files a > > form with the recording of the deed to the county recorder's > > office (or later, to the county assessor's office to > > challenge the supplemental tax billing). I suspect that > > there may be a similar procedure for your type of transfer > > of tax basis. > Please provide more information about Prop 58 if you can, it > sounds like it could apply to my situation. What if the > parent is recently deceased and the child is combined with > brother and sisters in a trust arrangement? Can you still > use Prop 58 to do parent-child transfer (i.e., only to one > child)? http://www.lacountyassessor.com/extr...es/prop58.aspx -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| carol.cope[at]verizon.net wrote: - quote - > Please provide more information about Prop 58 if you can, it
The exemption applies to most transfers directly between a> sounds like it could apply to my situation. What if the > parent is recently deceased and the child is combined with > brother and sisters in a trust arrangement? Can you still > use Prop 58 to do parent-child transfer (i.e., only to one > child)? parent and child, or parent and grandchild if the child is already dead. It can be during lifetime or at death. There is a limit of $1,000,000 in lifetime transfers with respect to property that is not the primary residence of the donor. I believe there is a limit with respect to the primary residence as well, and I think it's $400,000. But I haven't looked into that particular issue recently. The statute is long and potentially very complicated depending on your specific situation. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > As for HOW to notify the state that this is what you have
Please provide more information about Prop 58 if you can, it> done, the only situation I have seen is for a prop. 58 > parent-child transfer. In that case, one simply files a > form with the recording of the deed to the county recorder's > office (or later, to the county assessor's office to > challenge the supplemental tax billing). I suspect that > there may be a similar procedure for your type of transfer > of tax basis. sounds like it could apply to my situation. What if the parent is recently deceased and the child is combined with brother and sisters in a trust arrangement? Can you still use Prop 58 to do parent-child transfer (i.e., only to one child)? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Carol Copeland wrote: - quote - > Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question re:how
Assuming eligible property, the window is two years before> CA property taxes are calculated. I have a much better idea > now how to predict my new property taxes after making > additions, re-modeling, etc. > My second question has to do with CA Propositions 60 & 90. > These laws allows anyone who is 55 years or older to > transfer their property tax basis into a new home of > approximately the same value of less. Proposition 90 allows > you to transfer within a limited number of counties, > propostion 60 allows to transfer within the same county that > your property is located. The idea is to allow you to move > to a new home without losing the lower property taxes from > your existing home. I think they both work about the same > tax-wise, the main difference is whether you move inside or > outside of existing county. > OK, here are my questions: > 1) Buy another house same county for $625K first and sell > ours 6 weeks (months, how long?) later for $650K. > Transfer property tax OK? or after sale to buy replacement. - quote - > 2) Sell our house first for $650K and buy another 6 weeks
Equal to or less is the rule.> (months, how long?) later for $650K. Transfer property > tax OK? - quote - > 3) Buy another house first and get property tax transfer OK.
Reassessment.> Tear down new house re-build from foundation up but keep > same sq ft? Re-assessment or same property tax? - quote - > 4) How do you set up the transfer up with the state in advance
There is no advance setup. You have three years from the> of the move? Of course, I will contact the public office > but I would like to hear of any personal experiences you > might already have. purchase date or completion date (new build) of the replacement to file the application with the county. - quote - > For question (3), the idea is to buy a fixer-upper for
All of your questions are answered by either downloading the> approximately the same value but re-build it to same size > and keep low property taxes if possible. > Thanks in advance for all responses, I really appreciate > your feedback. county application form or by visiting the county assessor website. E.g. here's Los Angeles: http://www.lacountyassessor.com/extr.../prop6090.aspx -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > Carol Copeland wrote:
The county assessor's office can answer all the questions.> > Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question re:how > > CA property taxes are calculated. I have a much better idea > > now how to predict my new property taxes after making > > additions, re-modeling, etc. > > > My second question has to do with CA Propositions 60 & 90. > > These laws allows anyone who is 55 years or older to > > transfer their property tax basis into a new home of > > approximately the same value of less. Proposition 90 allows > > you to transfer within a limited number of counties, > > propostion 60 allows to transfer within the same county that > > your property is located. The idea is to allow you to move > > to a new home without losing the lower property taxes from > > your existing home. I think they both work about the same > > tax-wise, the main difference is whether you move inside or > > outside of existing county. > > > OK, here are my questions: > > > 1) Buy another house same county for $625K first and sell > > ours 6 weeks (months, how long?) later for $650K. > > Transfer property tax OK? > > > 2) Sell our house first for $650K and buy another 6 weeks > > (months, how long?) later for $650K. Transfer property > > tax OK? > > > 3) Buy another house first and get property tax transfer OK. > > Tear down new house re-build from foundation up but keep > > same sq ft? Re-assessment or same property tax? > > > 4) How do you set up the transfer up with the state in advance > > of the move? Of course, I will contact the public office > > but I would like to hear of any personal experiences you > > might already have. > > > For question (3), the idea is to buy a fixer-upper for > > approximately the same value but re-build it to same size > > and keep low property taxes if possible. > Most of this is beyond my property tax knowledge. However, > the CA R&TC is available online for you to look this up > yourself. > As for HOW to notify the state that this is what you have > done, the only situation I have seen is for a prop. 58 > parent-child transfer. In that case, one simply files a > form with the recording of the deed to the county recorder's > office (or later, to the county assessor's office to > challenge the supplemental tax billing). I suspect that > there may be a similar procedure for your type of transfer > of tax basis. It's the local assessor that gets the notification, rather than the state. Procedures may vary a little bit from county to county. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Carol Copeland wrote: - quote - > Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question re:how
Most of this is beyond my property tax knowledge. However,> CA property taxes are calculated. I have a much better idea > now how to predict my new property taxes after making > additions, re-modeling, etc. > My second question has to do with CA Propositions 60 & 90. > These laws allows anyone who is 55 years or older to > transfer their property tax basis into a new home of > approximately the same value of less. Proposition 90 allows > you to transfer within a limited number of counties, > propostion 60 allows to transfer within the same county that > your property is located. The idea is to allow you to move > to a new home without losing the lower property taxes from > your existing home. I think they both work about the same > tax-wise, the main difference is whether you move inside or > outside of existing county. > OK, here are my questions: > 1) Buy another house same county for $625K first and sell > ours 6 weeks (months, how long?) later for $650K. > Transfer property tax OK? > 2) Sell our house first for $650K and buy another 6 weeks > (months, how long?) later for $650K. Transfer property > tax OK? > 3) Buy another house first and get property tax transfer OK. > Tear down new house re-build from foundation up but keep > same sq ft? Re-assessment or same property tax? > 4) How do you set up the transfer up with the state in advance > of the move? Of course, I will contact the public office > but I would like to hear of any personal experiences you > might already have. > For question (3), the idea is to buy a fixer-upper for > approximately the same value but re-build it to same size > and keep low property taxes if possible. the CA R&TC is available online for you to look this up yourself. As for HOW to notify the state that this is what you have done, the only situation I have seen is for a prop. 58 parent-child transfer. In that case, one simply files a form with the recording of the deed to the county recorder's office (or later, to the county assessor's office to challenge the supplemental tax billing). I suspect that there may be a similar procedure for your type of transfer of tax basis. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question re:how CA property taxes are calculated. I have a much better idea now how to predict my new property taxes after making additions, re-modeling, etc. My second question has to do with CA Propositions 60 & 90. These laws allows anyone who is 55 years or older to transfer their property tax basis into a new home of approximately the same value of less. Proposition 90 allows you to transfer within a limited number of counties, propostion 60 allows to transfer within the same county that your property is located. The idea is to allow you to move to a new home without losing the lower property taxes from your existing home. I think they both work about the same tax-wise, the main difference is whether you move inside or outside of existing county. OK, here are my questions: 1) Buy another house same county for $625K first and sell ours 6 weeks (months, how long?) later for $650K. Transfer property tax OK? 2) Sell our house first for $650K and buy another 6 weeks (months, how long?) later for $650K. Transfer property tax OK? 3) Buy another house first and get property tax transfer OK. Tear down new house re-build from foundation up but keep same sq ft? Re-assessment or same property tax? 4) How do you set up the transfer up with the state in advance of the move? Of course, I will contact the public office but I would like to hear of any personal experiences you might already have. For question (3), the idea is to buy a fixer-upper for approximately the same value but re-build it to same size and keep low property taxes if possible. Thanks in advance for all responses, I really appreciate your feedback. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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