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| "MTW" <mtwingcpa[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Seth Breidbart wrote:
Washington residents are among those who will benefit most> > What if I buy the stuff myself, and hire the contractor to > > install it? > > In that case, does it matter if I buy it from the contractor > > or someone else? > You would need to look at applicable state law. In WA state, > BOTH labor and materials on a home improvement are subject > to sales tax. So, you can "mix-n-match" the transaction > anyway you want, you will still end up paying sales (or use) > tax on the whole thing. from the new federal rules, because there is no individual income tax (so no deduction before the law change) and the sales tax applies to the entire amount of a construction contract. In Washington, the contractor buys all of the materials under a resale exemption, and the purchaser is the sales taxpayer. There may be other states that treat construction contracts the way Washington does, but I don't know of any offhand. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Stuart Bronstein <spamtrap[at]lexregia.com> wrote: - quote - > Katie Jaques wrote:
That makes sense to me.> > sethb[at]panix.com (Seth Breidbart) wrote: > > > Katie Jaques <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > It depends on the law of the state involved. In most > > > > states, a construction contractor is the consumer of > > > > materials, and therefore pays the sales tax on them. The > > > > contractor, not the customer, is the taxpayer. > > > What if I buy the stuff myself, and hire the contractor to > > > install it? > > > > > In that case, does it matter if I buy it from the contractor > > > or someone else? > > I can speak only with respect to California, and not with > > much authority on that since I haven't looked anything up > > <G> . However, I believe you could purchase the materials > > yourself from a third party and hire the contractor only to > > install them. Then you would be the taxpayer. > That's correct for California. > > I don't think you can buy the materials from the contractor. > > He is the consumer and he has to pay the tax when he buys > > materials. He can't buy them ex-tax and charge you the > > sales tax. > Well, that depends. If the contractor ever makes retail > sales of products he does not install (e.g. Home Depot is a > contractor as well as a retailer), it is possible to do > that. > It would even be possible, for example, to purchase things > from Home Depot, and subsequently hire Home Depot to install > them. In that case there would be sales tax on the initial > purchase, but not on the subsequent installation. > However if the purchase and the installation are contracted > for in a single transaction, the contractor is required to > charge tax on the entire transaction including the services. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Seth Breidbart wrote: - quote - > What if I buy the stuff myself, and hire the contractor to
You would need to look at applicable state law. In WA state,> install it? > In that case, does it matter if I buy it from the contractor > or someone else? BOTH labor and materials on a home improvement are subject to sales tax. So, you can "mix-n-match" the transaction anyway you want, you will still end up paying sales (or use) tax on the whole thing. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Katie Jaques wrote: - quote - > sethb[at]panix.com (Seth Breidbart) wrote:
That's correct for California.> > Katie Jaques <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote: > > > It depends on the law of the state involved. In most > > > states, a construction contractor is the consumer of > > > materials, and therefore pays the sales tax on them. The > > > contractor, not the customer, is the taxpayer. > > What if I buy the stuff myself, and hire the contractor to > > install it? > > > In that case, does it matter if I buy it from the contractor > > or someone else? > I can speak only with respect to California, and not with > much authority on that since I haven't looked anything up > <G> . However, I believe you could purchase the materials > yourself from a third party and hire the contractor only to > install them. Then you would be the taxpayer. - quote - > I don't think you can buy the materials from the contractor.
Well, that depends. If the contractor ever makes retail> He is the consumer and he has to pay the tax when he buys > materials. He can't buy them ex-tax and charge you the > sales tax. sales of products he does not install (e.g. Home Depot is a contractor as well as a retailer), it is possible to do that. It would even be possible, for example, to purchase things from Home Depot, and subsequently hire Home Depot to install them. In that case there would be sales tax on the initial purchase, but not on the subsequent installation. However if the purchase and the installation are contracted for in a single transaction, the contractor is required to charge tax on the entire transaction including the services. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| sethb[at]panix.com (Seth Breidbart) wrote: - quote - > Katie Jaques <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
I can speak only with respect to California, and not with> > It depends on the law of the state involved. In most > > states, a construction contractor is the consumer of > > materials, and therefore pays the sales tax on them. The > > contractor, not the customer, is the taxpayer. > What if I buy the stuff myself, and hire the contractor to > install it? > In that case, does it matter if I buy it from the contractor > or someone else? much authority on that since I haven't looked anything up <G> . However, I believe you could purchase the materials yourself from a third party and hire the contractor only to install them. Then you would be the taxpayer. I don't think you can buy the materials from the contractor. He is the consumer and he has to pay the tax when he buys materials. He can't buy them ex-tax and charge you the sales tax. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > My questions are:
In many cases, sales tax (at least local tax) isn't paid on> 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > of the house? construction materials. Instead, the building permit fee is in lieu of sales tax. When we did a remodel of our home a few years ago, we only paid county and state tax; no city tax. -- Thomas E Healy, CPA, PC 1650 38th St., Ste 202W Boulder, CO 80301 Please send email to: tom[at]tomhealycpa.com, since I block all email at my newsgroup address. phone (303) 443-1804 fax (720) 489-3772 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > I read in a newspaper article that, under the new law that
Probably not. Most states that I know of have a sales tax> > Congress passed relative to deducting sales taxes, that I > > can deduct taxes paid on material to build a new house. I > > had a developer build a new house for me this year. He also > > built other houses in this development, so he probably > > bought materials for several houses at a time. > > > My questions are: > > 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > > of the house? > > > 2. If so, what records would I request from the builder to > > prove the amount of the sales taxes paid? > You can only deduct the taxes if your name is on the invoice > for the materials. Since you purchased the finished product, > unless the tax is separately stated on the documents, you > are out of luck on this one. exemption of equipment/additions to real property - seems like something to do with double taxation and real estate taxes. -- Regards, Mark Rigotti << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Herb Smith <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > Any sales tax paid by the builder for materials (if any) is
Which makes it a business expense to him.> usually not a deduction to him - the tax is capitalized as > part of the material cost. - quote - > You can't deduct the sales tax, since you did not pay it to
As a customer, I _never_ pay sales tax to a taxing> a taxing authority. authority; I pay it to a retailer, who remits it to a taxing authority. (Use tax I pay directly.) Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Katie Jaques <katiej_1958[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > It depends on the law of the state involved. In most
What if I buy the stuff myself, and hire the contractor to> states, a construction contractor is the consumer of > materials, and therefore pays the sales tax on them. The > contractor, not the customer, is the taxpayer. install it? In that case, does it matter if I buy it from the contractor or someone else? Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| sethb[at]panix.com (Seth Breidbart) wrote: - quote - > A.G. Kalman <glendale202-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
It depends on the law of the state involved. In most> > shiflett[at]attREMOVE-THIS.com wrote: > > > My questions are: > > > 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > > > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > > > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > > > of the house? > > Not deductible, as you did not pay a general sales tax to > > the seller. > What if he got the builder to separate out the materials and > labor/other in his bill, so he _did_ pay sales tax on the > materials? states, a construction contractor is the consumer of materials, and therefore pays the sales tax on them. The contractor, not the customer, is the taxpayer. In California, the contractor is the retailer of fixtures, which includes such items as built-in appliances, furnace, water heater, etc. The contractor purchases those items for resale (ex-tax) and charges sales tax to the customer. The customer can deduct those taxes. Katie in San Diego The foregoing is intended for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Seth Breidbart wrote: - quote - > A.G. Kalman <glendale202-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
Remembering the "good old days" of sales tax deductions,> > shiflett[at]attREMOVE-THIS.com wrote: > > > My questions are: > > > 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > > > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > > > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > > > of the house? > > Not deductible, as you did not pay a general sales tax to > > the seller. > What if he got the builder to separate out the materials and > labor/other in his bill, so he _did_ pay sales tax on the > materials? not even if the builder separately stated the tax on the invoice. (Invoice for a house? grin). Anyway, sales taxes are not imposed by states on third parties anyway. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:28:25 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| cshiflett[at]att.net (cshiflett[at]attREMOVE-THIS.com) wrote: - quote - > I read in a newspaper article that, under the new law that
Any sales tax paid by the builder for materials (if any) is> Congress passed relative to deducting sales taxes, that I > can deduct taxes paid on material to build a new house. I > had a developer build a new house for me this year. He also > built other houses in this development, so he probably > bought materials for several houses at a time. > My questions are: > 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > of the house? > 2. If so, what records would I request from the builder to > prove the amount of the sales taxes paid? usually not a deduction to him - the tax is capitalized as part of the material cost. You can't deduct the sales tax, since you did not pay it to a taxing authority. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| A.G. Kalman <glendale202-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > shiflett[at]attREMOVE-THIS.com wrote:
What if he got the builder to separate out the materials and> > My questions are: > > 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > > of the house? > Not deductible, as you did not pay a general sales tax to > the seller. labor/other in his bill, so he _did_ pay sales tax on the materials? Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I read in a newspaper article that, under the new law that
You can only deduct the taxes if your name is on the invoice> Congress passed relative to deducting sales taxes, that I > can deduct taxes paid on material to build a new house. I > had a developer build a new house for me this year. He also > built other houses in this development, so he probably > bought materials for several houses at a time. > My questions are: > 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > of the house? > 2. If so, what records would I request from the builder to > prove the amount of the sales taxes paid? for the materials. Since you purchased the finished product, unless the tax is separately stated on the documents, you are out of luck on this one. Sorry.. Bruce Raskin, CPA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I dont think SO !! << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| cshiflett[at]att.net (cshiflett[at]attREMOVE-THIS.com) wrote: - quote - > I read in a newspaper article that, under the new law that
A little more info: The law is the Amerian Jobs Creation> Congress passed relative to deducting sales taxes, that I > can deduct taxes paid on material to build a new house. I > had a developer build a new house for me this year. He also > built other houses in this development, so he probably > bought materials for several houses at a time. > My questions are: > 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > of the house? > 2. If so, what records would I request from the builder to > prove the amount of the sales taxes paid? Act. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| shiflett[at]attREMOVE-THIS.com wrote: - quote - > I read in a newspaper article that, under the new law that
Not deductible, as you did not pay a general sales tax to> Congress passed relative to deducting sales taxes, that I > can deduct taxes paid on material to build a new house. I > had a developer build a new house for me this year. He also > built other houses in this development, so he probably > bought materials for several houses at a time. > My questions are: > 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > of the house? the seller. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| cshiflett[at]attREMOVE-THIS.com wrote: - quote - > I read in a newspaper article that, under the new law that
I'm pretty sure the deductions for building materials> Congress passed relative to deducting sales taxes, that I > can deduct taxes paid on material to build a new house. I > had a developer build a new house for me this year. He also > built other houses in this development, so he probably > bought materials for several houses at a time. > My questions are: > 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house > deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I > eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price > of the house? purchased will be same as they once were. And since you are not buying the materials, you may not deduct the sales tax. If you hire a subcontractor and pay his labor only and you buy materials for home improvement, then you may. Incidentally, I expect this is the reason we all get questions from clients about "taking home improvements off on my taxes." (grin) ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I read in a newspaper article that, under the new law that Congress passed relative to deducting sales taxes, that I can deduct taxes paid on material to build a new house. I had a developer build a new house for me this year. He also built other houses in this development, so he probably bought materials for several houses at a time. My questions are: 1. Are the sales taxes on materials used to build my house deductible if the builder bought the materials, and I eventually paid them in the form of the purchase price of the house? 2. If so, what records would I request from the builder to prove the amount of the sales taxes paid? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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