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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > In this simple case, $5,000, according to pub 502.
Yep, that's the result based on the Pub's worksheets. But,my question is, where is the authoritative support for that approach? It appears to be loosely based on a discussion of taxable recoveries contain in regs under IRC 213 (medical deductions), but said regs are silent (as near as I can tell) on the notion that BASIS is partially restored in the case of a deduction for a capital item. Here's what throws me a loop: If an employee deducts (depreciates) a capital item as an employee business expense, he is clearly NOT entitled to restore to basis the portion of the deduction that is wiped out by the 2% of AGI floor (such depreciation is "allowed/allowable" and you are stuck with it, like it or not). So why should a different rule apply when a capital item is deducted for medical purposes??? Me thinks that this unexplained discrepancy casts doubt on the validity of the approach taken by the IRS worksheet in Pub 502. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| MTW wrote: - quote - > (Note: One thing I've never been clear on is how the 7.5% of
In this simple case, $5,000, according to pub 502.> AGI that you WEREN'T allowed to deduct as medical expenses > impacts the basis of "property" items that were deducted. > Say that 7.5% of his AGI was $5,000 and that the $8,000 > chair was his only medical expense. His allowed medical > deduction would be $3,000. But what is the resulting basis > of the chair? Zero??? Or $5,000??? Or???) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I am reviewing a tax return for a person who is confined to
You'll find the worksheets on Page 19 of Publication 502:> a motorized wheelchair. He purchased this chair for about > $8000 back in 2000 and after owning it for about a year > found out that it did not meet his needs. He bought a > different chair for $12,500 and donated the one year old > chair to a qualified rehabilitation hospital here in > Cincinnati. Although he valued the chair at $6000, he only > deducted $5000 because he did not believe it was worth it to > get a formal written appraisal. > My question is whether he should have taken the charitable > deduction at all. In the year he bought the chair, he > deducted qualified medical expenses far in excess of the > 7.5% floor and the chair was included. Since he already > took a deduction for it when he bought it, can he take > another when he gives it away? http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p502.pdf "Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService[at]aol.com Philadelphia, Pa - Atlantic City, NJ - West Wildwood, NJ My Newsgroups & Boards at: http://members.aol.com/TaxService/index.html Where Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!= ![]() << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Frank S. Duke, Jr. wrote: - quote - > In the year he bought the chair, he
Normally a charitable deduction of personal property would> deducted qualified medical expenses far in excess of the > 7.5% floor and the chair was included. Since he already > took a deduction for it when he bought it, can he take > another when he gives it away? be limited to the lower of FMV or basis. Since he already deducted the cost of the chair as a medical expense, his basis would arguably be zero (but see below). However, if he owned the chair for more than a year, and donated it to an organization that will USE it in their exempt activities (and it sounds like that's the case), then he arguably gets to deduct the FMV at that time as a charitable contribution. Sounds like a "double dip," but maybe it works. (Note: One thing I've never been clear on is how the 7.5% of AGI that you WEREN'T allowed to deduct as medical expenses impacts the basis of "property" items that were deducted. Say that 7.5% of his AGI was $5,000 and that the $8,000 chair was his only medical expense. His allowed medical deduction would be $3,000. But what is the resulting basis of the chair? Zero??? Or $5,000??? Or???) MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Frank S. Duke, Jr. wrote: - quote - > I am reviewing a tax return for a person who is confined to
Heck no. although it might depend on the total of his> a motorized wheelchair. He purchased this chair for about > $8000 back in 2000 and after owning it for about a year > found out that it did not meet his needs. He bought a > different chair for $12,500 and donated the one year old > chair to a qualified rehabilitation hospital here in > Cincinnati. Although he valued the chair at $6000, he only > deducted $5000 because he did not believe it was worth it to > get a formal written appraisal. > My question is whether he should have taken the charitable > deduction at all. In the year he bought the chair, he > deducted qualified medical expenses far in excess of the > 7.5% floor and the chair was included. Since he already > took a deduction for it when he bought it, can he take > another when he gives it away? itemized deductions that year versus the cost of the chair in relation to the amount that 7.5% of AGI was. If the chair cost 8000$, and other medical brought total up to.... say 11,000$, and 7.5$ of AGI had been 6000$, then it's easy to calculate the tax benefit of that portion of the itemized deduction for that year. Hmmm, with these figures, maybe that is how HE got the 5000$ value! But of course no double dippling. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| I am reviewing a tax return for a person who is confined to a motorized wheelchair. He purchased this chair for about $8000 back in 2000 and after owning it for about a year found out that it did not meet his needs. He bought a different chair for $12,500 and donated the one year old chair to a qualified rehabilitation hospital here in Cincinnati. Although he valued the chair at $6000, he only deducted $5000 because he did not believe it was worth it to get a formal written appraisal. My question is whether he should have taken the charitable deduction at all. In the year he bought the chair, he deducted qualified medical expenses far in excess of the 7.5% floor and the chair was included. Since he already took a deduction for it when he bought it, can he take another when he gives it away? All freely provided advice guarantee correct or double your money back Frank S. Duke, Jr. CPA Cincinnati, OH USA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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