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Old 11-18-2004, 01:16 AM
Bill Brown
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

"J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> wrote:

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> I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
> return only if the only income is from interest and
> dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.
> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?


No. That is not an option.

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> What about carry-forward losses.

Your daughter should file her own tax return. Unused net
capital losses can be carried forward indefinitely.

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> My 14 year old daughter has about $4000 in losses and I have
> been filing for her for about 3 years, just to keep the loss
> carried forward. But now I am wondering if I can just use
> this loss on my own return? (and maybe not have to file
> returns for her, until she has a gain big enough to trigger
> filing again.)


You/your daughter have been doing the right thing. Her
losses can only be used on her tax return.

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:50 AM
A.G. Kalman
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

Patrick Brandt wrote:

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> I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
> return only if the only income is from interest and
> dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.
> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?
> What about carry-forward losses.
> My 14 year old daughter has about $4000 in losses and I have
> been filing for her for about 3 years, just to keep the loss
> carried forward. But now I am wondering if I can just use
> this loss on my own return? (and maybe not have to file
> returns for her, until she has a gain big enough to trigger
> filing again.)
> Thanks for your thoughts.


You may not report her losses on your return. You report
the losses on her return and carry forward any unused loss.

--
Alan
http://taxtopics.net

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:50 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

J. Patrick Brandt <null[at]void.net> wrote:

- quote -

> I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
> return only if the only income is from interest and
> dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.
> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?
> What about carry-forward losses.
> My 14 year old daughter has about $4000 in losses and I have
> been filing for her for about 3 years, just to keep the loss
> carried forward. But now I am wondering if I can just use
> this loss on my own return? (and maybe not have to file
> returns for her, until she has a gain big enough to trigger
> filing again.)


Nope. Keep doing what you are doing.

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Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:50 AM
David Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

"J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> wrote:

- quote -

> I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
> return only if the only income is from interest and
> dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.
> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?
> What about carry-forward losses.
> My 14 year old daughter has about $4000 in losses and I have
> been filing for her for about 3 years, just to keep the loss
> carried forward. But now I am wondering if I can just use
> this loss on my own return? (and maybe not have to file
> returns for her, until she has a gain big enough to trigger
> filing again.)


Her loss, her return.

--
David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU
Woods Financial Services
Norwood, MA 02062
www.woods-financial.com

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:31 AM
Gary Goodman
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

null[at]void.net says...

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> I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
> return only if the only income is from interest and
> dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.
> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?
> What about carry-forward losses.
> My 14 year old daughter has about $4000 in losses and I have
> been filing for her for about 3 years, just to keep the loss
> carried forward. But now I am wondering if I can just use
> this loss on my own return? (and maybe not have to file
> returns for her, until she has a gain big enough to trigger
> filing again.)
> Thanks for your thoughts.


Your first paragraph answers your own question.

The best way to avoid this problem is to not lose money on
your investments. Easier said than done for the vast
majority of people, though.

Gary
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derive my email address X.

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:31 AM
Rich Carreiro
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

"J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> writes:

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> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?


No. They can only go on the child's return.

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> What about carry-forward losses.

Same as above.

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> My 14 year old daughter has about $4000 in losses and I have
> been filing for her for about 3 years, just to keep the loss
> carried forward. But now I am wondering if I can just use
> this loss on my own return?


No, you cannot.

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Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:31 AM
Tom Healy
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

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> I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
> return only if the only income is from interest and
> dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.
> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?
> What about carry-forward losses.
> My 14 year old daughter has about $4000 in losses and I

have
> been filing for her for about 3 years, just to keep the

loss
> carried forward. But now I am wondering if I can just use
> this loss on my own return? (and maybe not have to file
> returns for her, until she has a gain big enough to trigger
> filing again.)


This was answered a few weeks ago. Your daughter needs to
file her own return until the capital loss is used up, even
if that is after she is no longer your dependent. You don't
get to use her loss, ever.

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Boulder, CO 80301
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Old 11-17-2004, 03:31 AM
Christopher Green
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

"J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> wrote:

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> I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
> return only if the only income is from interest and
> dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.
> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?
> What about carry-forward losses.


[snip]

No. A child's investment losses are his or her own and
cannot be shifted to anybody else's return.

The rule for income of a child is merely a convenience: to
avoid filing small-amount tax returns for children.

One of the risks of transferring assets capable of
generating capital gains and losses to a child is that your
child may incur losses that are of no present benefit to
anyone.

--
Chris Green

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:12 AM
Paul A Thomas
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

"J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> wrote

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> I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
> return only if the only income is from interest and
> dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.
> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?
> What about carry-forward losses.


No, those belong to the child's return.

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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia
taxman at negia.net

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:12 AM
Phil Marti
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

"J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> writes:

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> However, what if my child has only investment losses?

Schedule D transactions require the child to file a return.
No choice available.

Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 11-17-2004, 03:12 AM
Herb Smith
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Default Re: Taking minor's loss on parents return?

"J. Patrick Brandt" <null[at]void.net> wrote:

- quote -

> I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
> return only if the only income is from interest and
> dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.
> However, what if my child has only investment losses?
> Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?
> What about carry-forward losses.
> My 14 year old daughter has about $4000 in losses and I have
> been filing for her for about 3 years, just to keep the loss
> carried forward. But now I am wondering if I can just use
> this loss on my own return? (and maybe not have to file
> returns for her, until she has a gain big enough to trigger
> filing again.)


Read your first paragraph out load. Capital gains and losses
belong on the CHILDS tax return, not yours. Continue filing
returns for her, to maintain the loss carryforward until
such time as she has enough ordinary income to use them.

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Old 11-15-2004, 02:57 AM
J. Patrick Brandt
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Default Taking minor's loss on parents return?

I know that I can include a child's income on my own tax
return only if the only income is from interest and
dividends, and if it is below a certain amount.

However, what if my child has only investment losses?

Can I include their long term capital losses on my return?
What about carry-forward losses.

My 14 year old daughter has about $4000 in losses and I have
been filing for her for about 3 years, just to keep the loss
carried forward. But now I am wondering if I can just use
this loss on my own return? (and maybe not have to file
returns for her, until she has a gain big enough to trigger
filing again.)

Thanks for your thoughts.

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