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| I've had FSAs for many years. Some of the "interpretation" is up to the adminstrator. I've never had a receipt denied, but never really pushed it. Most bills from a medical provider such as doctor, dentist, and optometrist pass. Certain drugstore purchases like sonicare and bandages pass. Non-prescribed vitamins probably dont make it. FSA surpluses are also good for "preventative maintenance" medicine- physicals, dental, blood work, vision, dermatology, etc. I reserve a few of these for Nov/Dec in case everyone is usually healthy in my family. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > A health flexible spending account (FSA) may reimburse only
I would consider the correction of a problem caused by> > "medical expenses" as defined in Code Sec. 213. According to > > Code Sec. 213(d)(9)(A) amounts paid for "cosmetic surgery" > > or other similar procedures can't be taken into account as a > > medical expense deduction, > So let's get back to my original question. > As a child, I was quite ill and was given tetracycline. > That's clearly covered as a medical expense. The > tetracycline caused my teeth to be brownish. Would > tooth-whitening be permissible in an FSA because it's part > of the treatment for the treatment for a disease? another medical procedure NOT to be cosmetic in origin, but to originate from the original defect (as a "complication"). The IRS might want to challenge this based on the time difference between the original problem and the correction, but there's no time limit in the law. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > A health flexible spending account (FSA) may reimburse only
So let's get back to my original question.> "medical expenses" as defined in Code Sec. 213. According to > Code Sec. 213(d)(9)(A) amounts paid for "cosmetic surgery" > or other similar procedures can't be taken into account as a > medical expense deduction, As a child, I was quite ill and was given tetracycline. That's clearly covered as a medical expense. The tetracycline caused my teeth to be brownish. Would tooth-whitening be permissible in an FSA because it's part of the treatment for the treatment for a disease? Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| sethb[at]panix.com says... - quote - > Brian <bpbiv[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
Tetracycline is the one. It is (was?) frequently prescribed> > A health flexible spending account (FSA) may reimburse only > > "medical expenses" as defined in Code Sec. 213. According to > > Code Sec. 213(d)(9)(A) amounts paid for "cosmetic surgery" > > or other similar procedures can't be taken into account as a > > medical expense deduction, unless the surgery or procedure > > is necessary to ameliorate a deformity arising from (or > > directly related to) a > > > (1) congenital abnormality, > > (2) personal injury resulting from an accident or trauma, or > > (3) disfiguring disease. > > > "Cosmetic surgery" is any procedure which is directed at > > improving the patient's appearance and doesn't meaningfully > > promote the proper function of the body or prevent or treat > > illness or disease. > I can't remember which antibiotic it was (one of the > *mycins, I think), but if given to a child whose teeth are > forming, it damages the enamel and causes the teeth to be > much darker than they otherwise would be. For someone who > was a victim of this (before the problem was known), could > tooth whitening be considered a medical expense, since it is > part of treating the results of treating a disease? to people who were allergic to penicillin. Gary -- You can probably X figure out X which letters to X delete to derive my email address X. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > I can't remember which antibiotic it was (one of the
Tetracycline.> *mycins, I think), but if given to a child whose teeth are > forming, it damages the enamel and causes the teeth to be > much darker than they otherwise would be. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Brian <bpbiv[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > A health flexible spending account (FSA) may reimburse only
I can't remember which antibiotic it was (one of the> "medical expenses" as defined in Code Sec. 213. According to > Code Sec. 213(d)(9)(A) amounts paid for "cosmetic surgery" > or other similar procedures can't be taken into account as a > medical expense deduction, unless the surgery or procedure > is necessary to ameliorate a deformity arising from (or > directly related to) a > (1) congenital abnormality, > (2) personal injury resulting from an accident or trauma, or > (3) disfiguring disease. > "Cosmetic surgery" is any procedure which is directed at > improving the patient's appearance and doesn't meaningfully > promote the proper function of the body or prevent or treat > illness or disease. *mycins, I think), but if given to a child whose teeth are forming, it damages the enamel and causes the teeth to be much darker than they otherwise would be. For someone who was a victim of this (before the problem was known), could tooth whitening be considered a medical expense, since it is part of treating the results of treating a disease? Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| As an aside, there is no a roll-over version for high-cost health plans called Health Savings Accounts and employers are allowed to offer these. But mine has been dragging their feet and press reports few have been offered. A roll-over bill for the traditional FSA has been submitted in Congress several times, but hasnt had much interest. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin" wrote - quote - > > Also, it appears that tooth whitening is NOT
"HW "Skip" Weldon" wrote> > covered, either as a medical deduction, nor under the > > reimbursement plan. - quote - > Do you have a cite for this? Are there any exceptions -
A health flexible spending account (FSA) may reimburse only> such as for professional speakers, actors, etc.? "medical expenses" as defined in Code Sec. 213. According to Code Sec. 213(d)(9)(A) amounts paid for "cosmetic surgery" or other similar procedures can't be taken into account as a medical expense deduction, unless the surgery or procedure is necessary to ameliorate a deformity arising from (or directly related to) a (1) congenital abnormality, (2) personal injury resulting from an accident or trauma, or (3) disfiguring disease. "Cosmetic surgery" is any procedure which is directed at improving the patient's appearance and doesn't meaningfully promote the proper function of the body or prevent or treat illness or disease. As far as speakers, actors, etc., the profession doen not make those expenses medical deductions. In some situations you might argue that it's an ordinary & necessary business expense, although I don't really know of cases where that has been upheld. Regardless, business expenses are not reimburseable from section 125 plans. Brian Bivona, CPA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote:
In your examples, it might be an allowable business expense,> > Also, it appears that tooth whitening is NOT > > covered, either as a medical deduction, nor under the > > reimbursement plan. > Do you have a cite for this? Are there any exceptions - > such as for professional speakers, actors, etc.? but that is completely different than being an allowable medical expense. -- David M. Woods, EA, ChFC, CLU Woods Financial Services Norwood, MA 02062 www.woods-financial.com << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Are compete physical exams covered? << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > ...
Don't make assumptions.... I personally am being subjected> I have doubts about botox....and I'm not sure a month and a > half is sufficient to schedule SERIOUS dental work.... to the torture of my dentist this year, with a pocketbook impact in excess of $3500. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Yaofeng wrote: - quote - > Just got the notice from our accounting dept. I haven't
Glasses. Eye glasses are usually not covered by a medical plan but FSA> spend a dime on my 2004 FSA. We put in only $1,040 for the > year. Don't think we have spent more than $200 the whole > year. What can we do in the next month and a half, among > the five of us, to use it up? > We should and are grateful all of us are in such good > health. Still I'd like to spend OUR money before being > taken away by Uncle Sam. > ================================================== ========= > Moderator: > Dental work, laser eye surgery, hearing aid, and botox > (if the plan allows it.) > ================================================== ========= money can be used. And they are usually not cheap. It's about now that my wife and I check our math, see what's left and get new glasses. (I'm thinking they do need to be perscription glasses, not over the counter) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin[at]sprintmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Also, it appears that tooth whitening is NOT
Do you have a cite for this? Are there any exceptions -> covered, either as a medical deduction, nor under the > reimbursement plan. such as for professional speakers, actors, etc.? -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Yaofeng wrote: - quote - > Just got the notice from our accounting dept. I haven't
I have doubts about botox....and I'm not sure a month and a> spend a dime on my 2004 FSA. We put in only $1,040 for the > year. Don't think we have spent more than $200 the whole > year. What can we do in the next month and a half, among > the five of us, to use it up? > We should and are grateful all of us are in such good > health. Still I'd like to spend OUR money before being > taken away by Uncle Sam. > ================================================== ========= > Moderator: > Dental work, laser eye surgery, hearing aid, and botox > (if the plan allows it.) > ================================================== ========= half is sufficient to schedule SERIOUS dental work. (Remember -- the work has to be DONE this year for it to count.) Also, it appears that tooth whitening is NOT covered, either as a medical deduction, nor under the reimbursement plan. If the plan allows for OTC drugs (some do), you might stock up on cold-and-flu medication. (Effective around October 2003, plans are allowed to reimburse you for OTC medication for treatment of a disease or health condition -- not for general health purposes.) << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Just got the notice from our accounting dept. I haven't spend a dime on my 2004 FSA. We put in only $1,040 for the year. Don't think we have spent more than $200 the whole year. What can we do in the next month and a half, among the five of us, to use it up? We should and are grateful all of us are in such good health. Still I'd like to spend OUR money before being taken away by Uncle Sam. ================================================== ========= Moderator: Dental work, laser eye surgery, hearing aid, and botox (if the plan allows it.) ================================================== ========= << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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