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| Jerohm" <jrmohrREMOVE[at]snet.net> wrote: - quote - > Can you sell a stock with a long term capital loss and buy
The bought-back stock receives the purchase date of the> it back in less than 30 days, effectively converting a long > term loss into a short term loss? I KNOW you can't > claim(use) the loss until you sell the new position and stay > out of the stock for more than 30 days. I am sure that I am > not the first to think of this, but I haven't been able to > find any documentation strictly addressing this behavior > (but I haven't really looked too hard either!) Thanks original stock. This means you can't shorten your holding period by a wash sale. This also means you can mistime your sales in such a way as to convert two short-term losses into one long-term loss. -- Chris Green << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Jerohm" <jrmohrREMOVE[at]snet.net> writes: - quote - > Can you sell a stock with a long term capital loss and buy it back
No.> in less than 30 days, effectively converting a long term loss into a > short term loss? - quote - > I KNOW you can't claim(use) the loss until you sell the new position
The was sale rule (to which you are referring) not only> and stay out of the stock for more than 30 days. tacks the disallowed loss onto the basis of the "replacement" stock, it also tacks the "washed" stock's *holding period* onto the "replacement" stock. As you can see, that will prevent the conversion of LT loss into ST loss. - quote - > am not the first to think of this, but I haven't been able to find
See IRS Pub 550 and look for the section on wash sales.> any documentation strictly addressing this behavior (but I haven't > really looked too hard either!) Thanks -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Jerohm" <jrmohrREMOVE[at]snet.net> writes: - quote - > Can you sell a stock with a long term capital loss and buy
No. When the wash sale rule applies, the holding period> it back in less than 30 days, effectively converting a long > term loss into a short term loss? remains unchanged. Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Jerohm wrote: - quote - > Can you sell a stock with a long term capital loss and buy
No. See "wash sale."> it back in less than 30 days, effectively converting a long > term loss into a short term loss? I KNOW you can't > claim(use) the loss until you sell the new position and stay > out of the stock for more than 30 days. I am sure that I am > not the first to think of this, but I haven't been able to > find any documentation strictly addressing this behavior > (but I haven't really looked too hard either!) Thanks << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Jerohm <jrmohrREMOVE[at]snet.net> wrote: - quote - > Can you sell a stock with a long term capital loss and buy
Pub 550 will tell you the stock you acquire in a wash sale> it back in less than 30 days, effectively converting a long > term loss into a short term loss? I KNOW you can't > claim(use) the loss until you sell the new position and stay > out of the stock for more than 30 days. I am sure that I am > not the first to think of this, but I haven't been able to > find any documentation strictly addressing this behavior > (but I haven't really looked too hard either!) Thanks takes the holding period of the stock you sold at a loss. So, no, you cannot convert a long term to a short term loss. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| erohm wrote: - quote - > Can you sell a stock with a long term capital loss and buy
When you buy it back within the 30 day period you create a> it back in less than 30 days, effectively converting a long > term loss into a short term loss? I KNOW you can't > claim(use) the loss until you sell the new position and stay > out of the stock for more than 30 days. I am sure that I am > not the first to think of this, but I haven't been able to > find any documentation strictly addressing this behavior > (but I haven't really looked too hard either!) Thanks wash sale. You can't claim a loss. The basis of the new stock includes the disallowed loss on the stock sold. The holding period for the new stock includes the holding period of the sold stock. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Jerohm" <jrmohrREMOVE[at]snet.net> wrote: - quote - > Can you sell a stock with a long term capital loss and buy
NO, the wash sale rules don't work that way. When you adjust> it back in less than 30 days, effectively converting a long > term loss into a short term loss? the basis of the "replacement" shares for the deferred loss, you also change the holding period of the replacement shares to that of the shares sold for a loss. If the deferred loss (the wash sale) was Long Term, then eventual sale of the replacement shares will be either LT gain or loss. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Can you sell a stock with a long term capital loss and buy
No, you can't. When you have a wash sale, not only do you> it back in less than 30 days, effectively converting a long > term loss into a short term loss? I KNOW you can't > claim(use) the loss until you sell the new position and stay > out of the stock for more than 30 days. I am sure that I am > not the first to think of this, but I haven't been able to > find any documentation strictly addressing this behavior > (but I haven't really looked too hard either!) Thanks roll the loss into the new cost basis, you reset the holding period to the purchase date of the sold lot. So, your long-term loss retains its long-term character in the new holding. Ira Smilovitz << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Can you sell a stock with a long term capital loss and buy it back in less than 30 days, effectively converting a long term loss into a short term loss? I KNOW you can't claim(use) the loss until you sell the new position and stay out of the stock for more than 30 days. I am sure that I am not the first to think of this, but I haven't been able to find any documentation strictly addressing this behavior (but I haven't really looked too hard either!) Thanks << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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