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| Stuart Bronstein wrote: - quote - > Oh, not the sum of the two? That would have been my guess.
That was my first guess, as well. My second guess was ~$7,086. But I finally looked it up and found the answer at Reg. 1.1015-4(a)(1). GREATER of donor basis or donee payment. MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Seth Breidbart" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote - quote - > > "Michelle Kapp" <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote:
I don't think she paid $100K to her father; I read it as> > > Single individual selling personal residence for over > > > 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > > > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > > > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > > > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve > > Since she bought the house from her father, his basis is > > irrelevant. Her basis is her purchase price ($100k) PLUS any > > improvements made in the last 34 years. > If she paid $100K to her father for a house worth $50K, I'd > say that her basis is $50K and the other $50K was a gift to > her father. $100!! Thus, in reality her father "sold" it to her for significantly less than FMV. To that extent he made a gift to HER. Thus his basis DOES figure into it. But rather than her basis being exactly the same as his ($7,000), I think that it would be $7,086. That is figured by taking the $100 she paid PLUS (49,900/50,000)7,000. (Because 49,900/50,000 of it was a gift and so she gets carryover basis of that percentage of his basis.) Vida Freeman, EA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Herb Smith <smithff33[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > "Michelle Kapp" <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote:
If she paid $100K to her father for a house worth $50K, I'd> > Single individual selling personal residence for over > > 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve > Since she bought the house from her father, his basis is > irrelevant. Her basis is her purchase price ($100k) PLUS any > improvements made in the last 34 years. say that her basis is $50K and the other $50K was a gift to her father. Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| MTW wrote: - quote - > Michelle Kapp wrote:
Oh, not the sum of the two? That would have been my guess.> > Single individual selling personal residence for over > > 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > > basis the daughter uses? 100? > Since this looks like a "part sale, part gift" transaction, > I believe her basis would be the greater of the donor's > basis or the amount of consideration she paid. Ergo: $7,000 > (assuming that was the father's basis at the time of the > gift). Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Michelle Kapp wrote: - quote - > Steve, working on Michelle's computer. Thanks
Good. I don't think sex-change operations are deductibleany more. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > > Single individual selling personal residence for over
I agree. What I've done in similar situations is to set the> > 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve > I will disagree with the other answers. If she "bought" a > house worth $50,000 from her father for $100, that wasn't > really a purchase - it was a gift. I would use $7,000 as > the basis (or maybe $7,100?) gift up as an installment sale with payments due only annually. When the payment is made, the check is returned by the parent with a note basically gifting the payment back to the child. The drawback is that, while the child shouldn't have cancellation of indebtedness income, the parent will have phantom interest income. It doesn't always have to add up to a significant amount, though. Stu << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Steve, working on Michelle's computer. Thanks << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Arthur L. Rubin wrote: - quote - > Michelle Kapp wrote:
who got "his" gender "trans"migrrated. (grin)> > Single individual selling personal residence for over > > 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > > basis the daughter uses? 100? > $7,000, or possibly $100 + $6900 x 499/500 = $7,086.20. > > Thank you, Steve > Who are you? Steve or Michelle? <G I'm wondering now if this is the same OP several years ago ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA Tue, 9 Nov 2004 17:59:27 << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Herb Smith wrote: - quote - > "Michelle Kapp" <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote:
OOps! Herb, look again. OP said the taxpayer bought the> > Single individual selling personal residence for over > > 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve > Since she bought the house from her father, his basis is > irrelevant. Her basis is her purchase price ($100k) PLUS any > improvements made in the last 34 years. In that period of > time, furnace, hot water heater, roof replacement, > electrical upgrade, etc are all possible. Nothing lasts > forever. house from her father for 100 in 1970.! This puts me in mind of a client long ago who's father "sold" him his house for $1. It was a formality to be sure. People do this, recording 1$ or 100$ in the public records to hide the real "consideration". Now then; IF the OP really mean 100,000$, then disregard the above. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Michelle Kapp wrote: - quote - > Single individual selling personal residence for over
Since this looks like a "part sale, part gift" transaction,> 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve I believe her basis would be the greater of the donor's basis or the amount of consideration she paid. Ergo: $7,000 (assuming that was the father's basis at the time of the gift). MTW << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| ichelle Kapp wrote: - quote - > Single individual selling personal residence for over
Effectively, the father gifted the home to his daughter> 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve ($49,900 gift). As such, the father's cost basis in the home at the time of the gift transferred to the daughter ($7000 plus any capital improvements made by the father). The adjusted cost basis in the hands of the daughter is usually the preceding plus any improvements made by the daughter. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| - quote - > Single individual selling personal residence for over
I will disagree with the other answers. If she "bought" a> 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve house worth $50,000 from her father for $100, that wasn't really a purchase - it was a gift. I would use $7,000 as the basis (or maybe $7,100?) -- Don EA in Upstate NY << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Michelle Kapp <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > Single individual selling personal residence for over
I would say that makes it essentially a gift. Her father> 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. should have filed the appropriate forms. - quote - > The father
If it's a gift, I think she uses her father's basis (plus> had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve all appropriate adjustments). Seth << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Michelle Kapp wrote: - quote - > Single individual selling personal residence for over
$7,000, or possibly $100 + $6900 x 499/500 = $7,086.20.> 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > basis the daughter uses? 100? - quote - > Thank you, Steve
Who are you? Steve or Michelle? <G<< -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Michelle Kapp" <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote - quote - > Single individual selling personal residence for over
Looks like a gift, the gift basis would be $7,000, or> 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve whatever the fathers basis was when the gift was made. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia taxman at negia.net << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Michelle Kapp" <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > Single individual selling personal residence for over
Since she bought the house from her father, his basis is> 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve irrelevant. Her basis is her purchase price ($100k) PLUS any improvements made in the last 34 years. In that period of time, furnace, hot water heater, roof replacement, electrical upgrade, etc are all possible. Nothing lasts forever. << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| "Michelle Kapp" <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > Single individual selling personal residence for over
Her basis would be what she paid for it.> 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in > 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father > had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original > basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve Wayne Brasch, CPA, M. S. Taxation << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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| Single individual selling personal residence for over 500,000. She bought the house from her father for 100 in 1970. the house at that time was worth $50,000. The father had originally purchased for 7,000. What is the original basis the daughter uses? 100? Thank you, Steve << -------------------------------------------------> << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting > << messages to this newsgroup are at www.asktax.org > << -------------------------------------------------> |
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